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shelbyfv

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Posted: 07/25/22 10:00am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

valhalla360 wrote:

Ignoring the chest puffing over what qualifies as camping....
This is an RV site and it is at best marginal to call a pickup with a bed cap an RV and really irrelevant when talking about range. There is nothing camping specific about the setup vs just road tripping and staying in hotels.

So back to the subject, even if we accept it's an RV used for camping, it's still far more challenging to use for the average person with routing often dominated by where the next charging station is and how long you will have to wait.

Once you get into what most people would consider an RV/Camper...it's really not viable. There are rare niche users such as if you are full timing and rarely travel more than 150 miles in a day followed by a day or two plugged in while pulling a teardrop camper, it can be viable but that's a pretty small niche market and even that use case has significant tradeoffs.

For most people, in particular the weekend warriors, it's just not viable to pull 300-400miles in a day having to stop for an hour or more multiple times where you may have to unhook the trailer while keeping the kids occupied during the stops. It simply becomes impractical for most common RV use cases.

More and faster charging stations will help but they are unlikely to ever reach the scope of gas stations as most commuter car charging will always be at home in the garage.

To make it really viable, we are going to need a leap forward in battery technology...I would guess somewhere on the order of twice the energy density of current lithium technology. This is technology, not just cramming more batteries in which would come with weight penalties that create new issues. If you get up around a 200mile range towing and less than an hour to recharge, now a 400mile travel day starts becoming viable without the need to recharge becoming the controlling factor. It would also allow weekend trips without having to muck about with fast charging at all.
Don't disagree, other than being reluctant to pigeon hole what is true camping.[emoticon] Range and time to charge are obviously the low hanging fruit of EV disadvantages. Folks adjust for these factors or they don't. Anyway, someone decided to take a road trip in a new type of vehicle and film it. Something about this endeavor has inexplicably enraged OP. He apparently felt compelled to rant in the Tow Vehicle section even though they aren't towing anything. [emoticon]

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valhalla360 wrote:

Ignoring the chest puffing over what qualifies as camping....

This is an RV site and it is at best marginal to call a pickup with a bed cap an RV and really irrelevant when talking about range.


It's a vehicle, being used for recreation. Therefore it is a Recreational Vehicle, an RV.

An F150 towing a TT is less of an RV than one with a bed cap used to overnight in. Trailers are not vehicles. Just ask your nearest crusty old phart when the bill from the Motor Vehicle Department comes in the mail on January 2nd.

If you really want to get nit picky about it, spending a couple of days in your little house on wheels is not "camping." Camping is sleeping on the ground under the stars with a rock as a pillow.


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Posted: 07/25/22 12:23pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

shelbyfv wrote:


Don't disagree, other than being reluctant to pigeon hole what is true camping.[emoticon] Range and time to charge are obviously the low hanging fruit of EV disadvantages. Folks adjust for these factors or they don't. Anyway, someone decided to take a road trip in a new type of vehicle and film it. Something about this endeavor has inexplicably enraged OP. He apparently felt compelled to rant in the Tow Vehicle section even though they aren't towing anything. [emoticon]


I agree. The OP is upset BECAUSE the video maker wasn't towing anything - insisting that towing a 24-26ft trailer is the One True Way for anyone with a 150/1500 truck.


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Beat that dead horse. Go on, beat it. It's really only mostly dead.

Hit it a few more times. I think I saw it twitch.

Nobody is disputing that you lose range. Either you learn to deal with it or you don't buy this truck. 2030 is a long way off. Plenty of opportunity to kick the can down the road.

Right now all the doom and gloom that is being predicted has yet to happen. A few stupid people can't figure out how to manage their fuel and end up stranded. OMFG the world is coming to an end! Yawn.

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+1 Seems simple, right? Don't like it, don't buy it. No need for a tantrum.

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shelbyfv wrote:

+1 Seems simple, right? Don't like it, don't buy it. No need for a tantrum.


Some folks need drama.


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I love my EV to the tune of 19k miles in 15 months. It is fun to drive almost like a hot hatch that could benefit from better tires. It is great for everything within 100 miles from home. And it is dirt cheap to drive. No brakes, oil changes, and about 3 cents per mile for "fuel" or energy. Beyond shortish day trips, I'll use another vehicle for a few reasons including time to refuel and comfort based on size/vehicle class. I do hope the power/charging infrastructure improves in the next few years to better utilize the benefits EVs bring to owners/drivers so that longer distances have comparable compromises to ICE.


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