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Reisender wrote:Durb wrote:Hmmm. Tesla has released a tow package for the Model 3 shown here. The maximum tow weight is 2,000# and max tongue weight is 220#. The lightest RPod made weighs 2,714 dry and most likely has a tongue weight of over 300#. Tesla 3s can tow teardrop trailers and that is about all. Maybe overloading his vehicle caused him to have greatly reduced range creating the need for a roadside charge.
I wonder where he hauled the generators and gas can.
Is that a model 3 or model Y. Hard to tell. If it’s a model Y then his towing capacity is 3500 lbs and max tounge weight is 350 pounds. Hard to tell from the pic though. I’ll look at it on the PC tomorrow.
No idea on the weight of the trailer.
But still no reason for a roadside charge. We have travelled that highway pulling a trailer. There are at least a half dozen charge opportunities. There is something else going on here.
Could be a Y. An X has central door handles on the rear doors. He could probably squeak under the tow rating, but would be pushing the tongue weight. Toting a couple of generators and extra fuel isn't going to help with the numbers.
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Durb wrote:Reisender wrote:Durb wrote:Hmmm. Tesla has released a tow package for the Model 3 shown here. The maximum tow weight is 2,000# and max tongue weight is 220#. The lightest RPod made weighs 2,714 dry and most likely has a tongue weight of over 300#. Tesla 3s can tow teardrop trailers and that is about all. Maybe overloading his vehicle caused him to have greatly reduced range creating the need for a roadside charge.
I wonder where he hauled the generators and gas can.
Is that a model 3 or model Y. Hard to tell. If it’s a model Y then his towing capacity is 3500 lbs and max tounge weight is 350 pounds. Hard to tell from the pic though. I’ll look at it on the PC tomorrow.
No idea on the weight of the trailer.
But still no reason for a roadside charge. We have travelled that highway pulling a trailer. There are at least a half dozen charge opportunities. There is something else going on here.
Could be a Y. An X has central door handles on the rear doors. He could probably squeak under the tow rating, but would be pushing the tongue weight. Toting a couple of generators and extra fuel isn't going to help with the numbers.
Yah. Hard to say on the tongue weight of the trailer without knowing the model. The model Y has a pretty stiff sport suspension. When we are fully loaded headed out the driveway with our teardrop the tongue weight is 338 pounds and the car doesn't squat more than 3/4 of an inch. We carry a chihuahua cage, a coleman propane stove and a 47 pound propane champion suitcase generator for dry camping. I can't imagine having to use it for charging. Ugh
Nice thing about the Y is it has a really deep subtrunk in the hatch. We can put our little champion and our coleman stove in there, cover them up with the floor covers and they are out of site from prying eyes. Great little propane camping generator but I'm sure it would suck for charging.
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Reisender wrote:
Yah. Hard to say on the tongue weight of the trailer without knowing the model.
It's either a R195 or R196, both similar on weights and specs.
Hitch @ 360 without gas or battery per R pod, most likely higher.
Cargo @1160
UVW @3600 (factory scale sticker on one seen on RV trader calls it 3762)
GVWR call it @ 4922 (5K axle)
The Tesla owner evidently does not belong to the RVnet weight police auxiliary.
I have a burn barrel in my yard.
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toedtoes wrote:I also think there are two different types of people buying Teslas.
The first are the "greenies". They want an electric vehicle and to not use fossil fuels. These folks are NOT parked on the side of the road charging their Teslas with generators - period.
The second group are those who buy a Tesla because they are "first adopters", "technophiles", or "image people". They are not concerned about being "green" but about having the newest, latest, big name, fad, etc. They WILL happily charge their Tesla from a generator because they don't care about not using fossil fuels - and they see nothing hypocritical about it.
To judge the first group as hypocrites based on the actions of the second group is unfair.
There was a poll on Reddit a month or so ago asking people the reason they chose an EV. The most popular reason: Lower total cost of ownership. The second most popular: more fun to drive. The potential environmental benefit came in last place. For many people it's seen as a nice secondary benefit, but insufficient in itself. True greenies advocate for removal of personal cars from the transportation system entirely.
As for the photo, I'd guess they're using the trailer for lunch or something and running the roof air (thus having the trailer plugged into the pair of gennies) and charging the car as something they can do with the excess to add a tiny bit of range in the meantime. Charging on 110V, you don't get much.
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PButler96 wrote:Reisender wrote:
Yah. Hard to say on the tongue weight of the trailer without knowing the model.
It's either a R195 or R196, both similar on weights and specs.
Hitch @ 360 without gas or battery per R pod, most likely higher.
Cargo @1160
UVW @3600 (factory scale sticker on one seen on RV trader calls it 3762)
GVWR call it @ 4922 (5K axle)
The Tesla owner evidently does not belong to the RVnet weight police auxiliary.
We briefly looked at them before we settled on the T@b but the only floor plan we kinda like was too heavy on the hitch for our car. I also didn’t like the roof air, the outboard tire fenders and the height. Just wasn’t the right fit. Ours is quite a bit more aerodynamic. AC is in the basement etc. Good fit. We are under all the weight limits of the car.
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BobsYourUncle wrote:mkirsch wrote:
Keep that smug expression on your face long enough, it will stick that way.
Smug look? No, I was smiling ![[emoticon]](http://www.rv.net/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif "smile") I guess you didn't see the irony of it the way I did! ![[emoticon]](http://www.rv.net/sharedcontent/cfb/images/biggrin.gif "biggrin") Think about it...
Same here , I did see the irony, but it seems most don't . Some seem to think you have wronged them. Regardless of their motive for EV's we are a ways off from getting away from fossil fuels .
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way2roll wrote:Ignoring the snarkiness of the original post, I wonder if there is an opportunity to develop an emergency rapid charge battery pack for RSA's in cases like this. The more EV's that get on the road, the more we will see running out of range issues. I envision one of those large battery packs like they use for jump starts etc, sort of like a quick charger for your phone only sized for an EV. Or even EV to EV charging. I can share power with someone else's phone if they need it, why couldn't the same principal be leveraged for EV's? Someone assists an EV out of power and juices them enough to get to a station without the need of a gas generator. Battery to battery. Foldable emergency solar panel? Just spitballing.. but I smell an opportunity. You invent a portable emergency charging method for EV's and cash would fall over itself to get in your wallet.
Actually someone has already developed that for emergency towing companies. They have something like a super charger that can charge fast enough juice for a vehicle to get to a charging station. I'm sure not every towing company has one, but they are available.
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Thermoguy wrote:way2roll wrote:Ignoring the snarkiness of the original post, I wonder if there is an opportunity to develop an emergency rapid charge battery pack for RSA's in cases like this. The more EV's that get on the road, the more we will see running out of range issues. I envision one of those large battery packs like they use for jump starts etc, sort of like a quick charger for your phone only sized for an EV. Or even EV to EV charging. I can share power with someone else's phone if they need it, why couldn't the same principal be leveraged for EV's? Someone assists an EV out of power and juices them enough to get to a station without the need of a gas generator. Battery to battery. Foldable emergency solar panel? Just spitballing.. but I smell an opportunity. You invent a portable emergency charging method for EV's and cash would fall over itself to get in your wallet.
Actually someone has already developed that for emergency towing companies. They have something like a super charger that can charge fast enough juice for a vehicle to get to a charging station. I'm sure not every towing company has one, but they are available.
Yah. It’s a modular CCS or Chademo unit. The units are stackable and 2 kw each. Most AAA type outfits are going with 7 kw total as the head unit is 1 kw. So 7 kw in about 12 to 15 minutes. There are various pictures out there. Not sure how popular they are.
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He just needs to attach a platform to the back of the trailer for the gens to run and charge while going down the road. Be sure the cord doesn't get damaged, is long enough in tight turning radius.
I saw a pic with a smokey diesel generator on a trailer being towed by a Tesla the other day. The price of batteries is another trade off as well.
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covered wagon wrote:He just needs to attach a platform to the back of the trailer for the gens to run and charge while going down the road. Be sure the cord doesn't get damaged, is long enough in tight turning radius.
I saw a pic with a smokey diesel generator on a trailer being towed by a Tesla the other day. The price of batteries is another trade off as well.
That won’t work. You can’t charge and drive at the same time. None of the charge formats allow for it. J1772 would be the relevant protocol for a generator sceenario and it definitely doesn’t work.
That pic of the Tesla hauling around a diesel generator is a spoof. There would also be no reason to do it.
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