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nickthehunter

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shelbyfv wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

We're back to full time spam by a limited group of members...
I don't think it's EV dreamers who start these threads. The ones I've participated in recently have been started by NeverEVers who just seem to want to flaunt their ignorance. That brings out folks like the Turtle who can't even remember what point they are trying to make. Little of this has anything to do with RVing.
From what I can tell, there are a number of folks here who actually believe climate change is a hoax and we could be burning fossil fuels forever more. When people are so invested in that level of ignorance you can't expect to have a rational discussion. Everyone here would be happier if EVs became off limits, along with politics and religion.
I went through every post on this thread - you’re the only one that mentioned climate change. Seems you’re the one pushing an agenda - and the agenda is “anyone who dares to have different opinion then you is ignorant”.

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I am not sure if I am more shocked at the dismal range or the $92,700 price of the 1/2 ton truck.


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The rumor is Ford is still building a few gasoline powered F150 this year. Even a hybrid if that works for you.


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1320Fastback wrote:

I am not sure if I am more shocked at the dismal range or the $92,700 price of the 1/2 ton truck.


The local Ford dealer here sold one of those trucks for $20K above sticker price to some knucklehead.


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1320Fastback wrote:

I am not sure if I am more shocked at the dismal range or the $92,700 price of the 1/2 ton truck.


Just saw an ad for a white F150 Lightning for $120k in stock, at the dealership I bought my used F150.


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I went through every post on this thread - you’re the only one that mentioned climate change. Seems you’re the one pushing an agenda - and the agenda is “anyone who dares to have different opinion then you is ignorant”.
I may be the only one who mentioned it specifically but wouldn't you agree climate change is the elephant in the corner? All the EV hate, but what's the alternative? If someone thinks ICEs are a viable alternative for the future, they either don't believe climate change is real or they just don't care. "Just don't care" is an honest though misanthropic position. "Don't believe" is ignorance, you won't find any informed support for it.

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shelbyfv wrote:

nickthehunter wrote:

I went through every post on this thread - you’re the only one that mentioned climate change. Seems you’re the one pushing an agenda - and the agenda is “anyone who dares to have different opinion then you is ignorant”.
I may be the only one who mentioned it specifically but wouldn't you agree climate change is the elephant in the corner? All the EV hate, but what's the alternative? If someone thinks ICEs are a viable alternative for the future, they either don't believe climate change is real or they just don't care. "Just don't care" is an honest though misanthropic position. "Don't believe" is ignorance, you won't find any informed support for it.



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^^^Guess I'm missing your point.[emoticon]

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shelbyfv wrote:

"If someone thinks ICEs are a viable alternative for the future, they either don't believe climate change is real or they just don't care. "Just don't care" is an honest though misanthropic position. "Don't believe" is ignorance, you won't find any informed support for it."
Just what is your definition of "viable alternative"? Even if every vehicle on the road was an EV, you would not solve your climate change problem, you'd merely switch your CO percentages from one column to another. Anyone that thinks ice is going to be eliminated in the next 30 years is sadly imbibing in a little to much Kool-Aid.

Hence, why I ask about your definition of "viable alternative". If you think ice is going away, just start explaining to me what happens to things like ocean freighters, diesel locomotives, airplanes, ... and I'll give you list of about 20 others when you explain those 3 to me.

Love to see what happens to that battery powered ocean cargo ship after about 3 days with high seas, no sun, and a big storm bearing down on them.

But not to worry, it's never happening in real life.

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^^^ Point taken, I should have said viable alternative for personal transportation. Freighters, trains, planes, long haul trucks etc. may very well be around for our lifetimes. Recreational towing, unless it moves away from ICEs could be a casualty long before those are impacted. We are the low hanging fruit, easy targets. We should be cheering for something that may keep us on the road. FWIW, you are incorrect about just moving CO from one column to another. And again, I'm not pretending to understand all this. I'm not educated enough and maybe not smart enough. I'd be surprised if anyone participating in these discussion was qualified to have an independent opinion. My position is that when it's something beyond my level of competence I'll defer to the experts with credentials. Some folks might choose to listen to TV personalities.

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