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Cradz350

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This is not a great way to keep a loyal customer.


LOL. What makes you think Ford, or any other manufacturer as far as that goes, gives a ratsass about keeping loyal customers? They dont.


Can't argue that...just love when you speak to the rep and they thank you for being part of the Ford family.

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New turbo is part of the oil system...bearings metal shavings could have damaged. I actually saw the write up for the other spun bearing truck as well as polled the other dealers. There's a reason the connecting rods were updated in 17.


funny how no one wants to take a few min and inspect parts for dammage, just through parts at it (the dealer not you) they do it because if somjmething is wrong with the new engine it is the factories issue and they are not out of pocket, but if they repair the motor and somthing is wrong now it is there fault, just a pass the buck game.

so I searched on the diesel forums I am on, I found 5 berring failures and 4 of them were rod berrings. one was a 2015 one was a 2017. very far from common, but one had the same experiance as you with the dealer and pricing inflation.. the stories were so close I thought it was yours at first, but it was 3 years ago. it its thought the general cause was using the wrong oil weight but no one is sure. but it is plane with the number of units on the road now that it is far from common.

normaly when we see something blowing up on the diesel forums it isnt realy common yet, but it is getting there, there just isnt any activity on this issue, just a stroke of dumb luck.



You found 5 and I know of two at the dealership where my truck is resting comfortably. The idea Ford's flagship engine with the 10K option cost has done this at all is insane, but if there's one or two at every dealership...this is definitely a trend. Starts smelling like class action time. I hear a lot of people bash the 6.0...mine never died this bad.

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New turbo is part of the oil system...bearings metal shavings could have damaged.


That's all good except there is no reason to replace the turbo when you have a nice big oil filter that filters all of the oil that enters the bearings or turbo.

Now if they wanted to replace the oil pump; that's a different story...


I guess it would depend on the path the oil takes with regards to the turbo, bearings and filter. I am less annoyed with the turbo replacement since it's difficult to remove on the 6.7 and a preemptive approach is not a bad thing. My bigger issue is the doubling of the engine price. As far as repairing the engine; the same replace over repair sentiment was also offered by two local private shops. Not enough meat for over bore and over-sized pistons. The engine isn't exactly a real heavy duty diesel. The other issue is getting Ford to do a root cause analysis. There hasn't been a determination to this point on why the bearing cooked...nor has the engine been torn down...of course this is because they already know why...

I'd love to buy an engine and install, but at this point considering the cab is lifted off the truck and engine is already removed, I may be stuck with Ford in perpetual limbo. This is not a great way to keep a loyal customer.



Ya, all engine oil is filtered before it sees any engine parts except the oil pump.

In any event it would be a good idea for you to listen to this video about the 6.7 Ford diesel.

This guy really knows his stuff and sees a ton of these engines and will talk about the various failure points. It's really good to see all of the failure points of this engine that he talks about.

If you just want to see to part where he talks about "seeing a ton of bearing failure" just go to 42:42 and see what he has to say. I would watch the whole video if I were you though because this guy is very informative.

Anyway, good luck and I hope you get past this so you can take your RV out for a little time off.


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Turtle n Peeps wrote:

Cradz350 wrote:

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

Cradz350 wrote:

New turbo is part of the oil system...bearings metal shavings could have damaged.


That's all good except there is no reason to replace the turbo when you have a nice big oil filter that filters all of the oil that enters the bearings or turbo.

Now if they wanted to replace the oil pump; that's a different story...


I guess it would depend on the path the oil takes with regards to the turbo, bearings and filter. I am less annoyed with the turbo replacement since it's difficult to remove on the 6.7 and a preemptive approach is not a bad thing. My bigger issue is the doubling of the engine price. As far as repairing the engine; the same replace over repair sentiment was also offered by two local private shops. Not enough meat for over bore and over-sized pistons. The engine isn't exactly a real heavy duty diesel. The other issue is getting Ford to do a root cause analysis. There hasn't been a determination to this point on why the bearing cooked...nor has the engine been torn down...of course this is because they already know why...

I'd love to buy an engine and install, but at this point considering the cab is lifted off the truck and engine is already removed, I may be stuck with Ford in perpetual limbo. This is not a great way to keep a loyal customer.



Ya, all engine oil is filtered before it sees any engine parts except the oil pump.

In any event it would be a good idea for you to listen to this video about the 6.7 Ford diesel.

This guy really knows his stuff and sees a ton of these engines and will talk about the various failure points. It's really good to see all of the failure points of this engine that he talks about.

If you just want to see to part where he talks about "seeing a ton of bearing failure" just go to 42:42 and see what he has to say. I would watch the whole video if I were you though because this guy is very informative.

Anyway, good luck and I hope you get past this so you can take your RV out for a little time off.


Watch that video and you might think twice about buying one of these trucks, or it may make you run out and dump the one you already have this afternoon lol.


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Don’t own a Ford but between the original Power Stroke and the very last Power Stroke you couldn’t run fast enough to give me one. Friend has 2015 PS that is nothing but grief. He wants to buy my 03 Duramax but he’s so far into the Ford to do anything.



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Cradz350 wrote:

StirCrazy wrote:

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New turbo is part of the oil system...bearings metal shavings could have damaged. I actually saw the write up for the other spun bearing truck as well as polled the other dealers. There's a reason the connecting rods were updated in 17.


funny how no one wants to take a few min and inspect parts for dammage, just through parts at it (the dealer not you) they do it because if somjmething is wrong with the new engine it is the factories issue and they are not out of pocket, but if they repair the motor and somthing is wrong now it is there fault, just a pass the buck game.

so I searched on the diesel forums I am on, I found 5 berring failures and 4 of them were rod berrings. one was a 2015 one was a 2017. very far from common, but one had the same experiance as you with the dealer and pricing inflation.. the stories were so close I thought it was yours at first, but it was 3 years ago. it its thought the general cause was using the wrong oil weight but no one is sure. but it is plane with the number of units on the road now that it is far from common.

normaly when we see something blowing up on the diesel forums it isnt realy common yet, but it is getting there, there just isnt any activity on this issue, just a stroke of dumb luck.



You found 5 and I know of two at the dealership where my truck is resting comfortably. The idea Ford's flagship engine with the 10K option cost has done this at all is insane, but if there's one or two at every dealership...this is definitely a trend. Starts smelling like class action time. I hear a lot of people bash the 6.0...mine never died this bad.


if there is one or two at every dealership considering how many have been sold since 2012 it is far from a trend, it is a very very small sample. 6L were the worst I personaly know 6 people that broke them, but having said that it was because of people hopping them up. if left stock they were pretty deicent. the 6.7 berring issues that I found were related to oil quality and change intervals. I would never run conventional oil in my 6.7 and go by the change timer. I do run rotella T6 and go by the change timer though. lots of heat in these motors. my truck has had every common issue, lucky I bought extended warenty, but it choaked me that while buddy might have one issue and another might have another, I had them all. Ill check with the two dealers in town to see what they have seen but extensive searches and I have only found this as the most comon issues.

EGT Sensor Failure
EGR Cooler Clogging
Injection Pump Failure
Radiator Coolant Leaks
Turbocharger Problems.

but hey if you see an article or somthing send it my way, I am always up for reading about stuff like this.


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Don't know the complete story, but good friends were just stranded in PA with a seized 2015 Power Stroke, got a replacement engine and it was bad.


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So Flowerjokes are still finicky about oil? Nothing new.
U could run a Cummins on some goose grease and French fry oil and the only downside is getting hungry when you’re pulling grades and it smells like a fried turkey!
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StirCrazy wrote:

Cradz350 wrote:

StirCrazy wrote:

Cradz350 wrote:

New turbo is part of the oil system...bearings metal shavings could have damaged. I actually saw the write up for the other spun bearing truck as well as polled the other dealers. There's a reason the connecting rods were updated in 17.


funny how no one wants to take a few min and inspect parts for dammage, just through parts at it (the dealer not you) they do it because if somjmething is wrong with the new engine it is the factories issue and they are not out of pocket, but if they repair the motor and somthing is wrong now it is there fault, just a pass the buck game.

so I searched on the diesel forums I am on, I found 5 berring failures and 4 of them were rod berrings. one was a 2015 one was a 2017. very far from common, but one had the same experiance as you with the dealer and pricing inflation.. the stories were so close I thought it was yours at first, but it was 3 years ago. it its thought the general cause was using the wrong oil weight but no one is sure. but it is plane with the number of units on the road now that it is far from common.

normaly when we see something blowing up on the diesel forums it isnt realy common yet, but it is getting there, there just isnt any activity on this issue, just a stroke of dumb luck.



You found 5 and I know of two at the dealership where my truck is resting comfortably. The idea Ford's flagship engine with the 10K option cost has done this at all is insane, but if there's one or two at every dealership...this is definitely a trend. Starts smelling like class action time. I hear a lot of people bash the 6.0...mine never died this bad.


if there is one or two at every dealership considering how many have been sold since 2012 it is far from a trend, it is a very very small sample. 6L were the worst I personaly know 6 people that broke them, but having said that it was because of people hopping them up. if left stock they were pretty deicent. the 6.7 berring issues that I found were related to oil quality and change intervals. I would never run conventional oil in my 6.7 and go by the change timer. I do run rotella T6 and go by the change timer though. lots of heat in these motors. my truck has had every common issue, lucky I bought extended warenty, but it choaked me that while buddy might have one issue and another might have another, I had them all. Ill check with the two dealers in town to see what they have seen but extensive searches and I have only found this as the most comon issues.

EGT Sensor Failure
EGR Cooler Clogging
Injection Pump Failure
Radiator Coolant Leaks
Turbocharger Problems.

but hey if you see an article or somthing send it my way, I am always up for reading about stuff like this.


There are 3000 dealers in the US...if you figure 1,000,000 engines made and 3 bearing failures per dealerships...the rate would be 9/10 of a percent. Couple this almost 1 percent Failure rate with the extreme cost of repairs and this is massively bad Ford PR.

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Grit dog wrote:

So Flowerjokes are still finicky about oil? Nothing new.
U could run a Cummins on some goose grease and French fry oil and the only downside is getting hungry when you’re pulling grades and it smells like a fried turkey!
Lol


Love a Ford truck with Cummins...but in a Dodge with their trans...is just a different pile of problems

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