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CKNSLS wrote:blt2ski wrote:My 2014 1500 is just shy of 2000 lbs per door sticker. I've run down the road per dot scale close to 8400 with out issues.
With that said, iirc Toyota used a 10.5" rear ring gear vs 9.5 or 8.5 in my case, as I have a V6, not an 8. Also typically a 4.10 ratio. Trans gears are taller overall. Reality, the GM typical 3.42 ratio and 4.5 2st gear in trans may be lower overall.
Reality, both should be similar in handling, power can vary due to many factors.
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My 2018 Silverado 1500 Crew Cab LTZ (Short bed) w/the 5.3 is 1444 pounds. I'm very surprised at this 2,000 pound payload figure.
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ssthrd wrote:plasticmaster wrote:I have a 2014 Silverado 5.3L V8 with tow capacity of 9700# and payload capacity of 1638# according to the sticker on the door jamb. I tow my camper with it, which fully loaded weighs close to 9500#. I know I’m at the upper end of my tow rating, but I’ve never felt uncomfortable while towing. I’m thinking of getting a Toyota Tundra. As long as the tow capacity and payload capacity is the same or exceeds that of my Silverado, shouldn’t I expect roughly the same experience towing? I want to make sure the Tundra would be up to the task. Thanks.
IMHO, comfort level is an individual measure based on skill, experience, and personality. What is comfortable for you might be over the top for others. Opinions you get will vary.
I would put myself at the more aggressive end of the scale.
Having said that….
I had a 2013 Tundra Limited with 5.7, 6 speed automatic, and 430 rear end. 381 up and 401 ft lbs torque (if memory serves me right). Cargo weight was something around 1500 lbs, and the tow rating was 9800 lbs. So a little more power and towing capacity than your Chevy. On a 32000 km trip over more than 5 months, I averaged 23 litres per 100 kms which translates to 10.2 US mpg while towing a 7000 lb travel trailer. I can’t remember the numbers, but with 3 people, 2 dogs, a canopy, a Ruckus, 10 gallons of fuel and a toolbox in the back along with 2 spares for the trailer, I was overweight on the back axle by maybe 500 lbs. never hurt or power in the Rockies, and downhills was never an issue with a decent engine/tranny combo.
With that out of the way, I would not tow any more than that with that particular truck over that distance. I loved that truck and would have bought the ¾ ton version if they made one. For short trips it was awesome. Good weather with not much wind it was awesome. Windy day with semis passing it sucked, but after awhile it became “normal” and manageable. Just needed to anticipate and deal with things accordingly.
I would say that if you are towing anything close to 10,000lbs with a half ton over longer distances, get a ¾ ton whatever truck and you will thank yourself for it. Otherwise stick to your Chevy. It is a great truck and the 5.3 is bullet proof.
Or maybe get a dually…………
Good post. And even at that, you live in the coastal PNW and have to drive the Cascades as a warm up for the Rockies.
Whereas the OP lives in “home” because he don’t want to share that. But if “home” is Iowa and he doesn’t travel more than 500 miles in any direction, his truck is probably doing less work towing 9500lbs than yours was towing 7klbs.
But you understand that. Many here don’t.
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Grit dog wrote:WinMinnie02 wrote:Chevy 2500 HD or 3500 HD to be safe.
We’re up to 3500 recommendation on page 1! Nice work….
Maybe will get a “get a dually” before this thread is over. Lol
Or a 2-1/4 ton triplly even, possibly a quadrilly.
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Lwiddis wrote:"I have never seen a Silverado 1500 with a 1,600 payload-but I will take your word for it. In the real world-you are really should look in to a 2500."
My payload is 1,712, CKNSLS.
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Where is this sticker on your truck? Granted yours is 6 yrs newer than mine......I have a 3950 gawr front and rear, and a 7200 gvwr. Something has been lightened up suspension wise in those 6 years. OR you have a rwd, vs my 4wd or other dumb reason.
I do not have this particular sticker on my truck.
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spoon059 wrote:I won't go back to a half ton pickup, even if I stop towing. You get more bang for your buck in a 3/4 or 1 ton.
Same. In comparable trim levels HD trucks cost a little more to buy and operate but they're still a better value.
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IdaD wrote:spoon059 wrote:I won't go back to a half ton pickup, even if I stop towing. You get more bang for your buck in a 3/4 or 1 ton.
Same. In comparable trim levels HD trucks cost a little more to buy and operate but they're still a better value.
That's the kicker in the whole mess. While a dually is a lot more capable than a 1/2 ton. The pre covid price difference betwen the two is not that significant.
Now that there are shortages and supply chain issues pricing is more influenced by supply and demand. But the bottom line is it generlly does not cost more to buy the correct properly equipped truck vs. buying any old truck or the wrong truck.
Many people end up with the wrong truck simply because they did not research or do their homework and simply did not know any better.
$$$ money is generally not the issue.
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And apparently, a half ton is not the "wrong truck" for the OP according to the only person that matters...himself.
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I know a lot of farmers/ranchers who used to drive nothing but 3/4 ton trucks and got tired of getting beat driving off road and switched to 1/2 trucks.
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Lantley wrote:
That's the kicker in the whole mess. While a dually is a lot more capable than a 1/2 ton. The pre covid price difference betwen the two is not that significant.
Define significant....
Apples to apples, it's 25-30%. Was before the Rona, still is.
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PButler96 wrote:Grit dog wrote:WinMinnie02 wrote:Chevy 2500 HD or 3500 HD to be safe.
We’re up to 3500 recommendation on page 1! Nice work….
Maybe will get a “get a dually” before this thread is over. Lol
Or a 2-1/4 ton triplly even, possibly a quadrilly.
Or a quintupply.
It's ok, OP don't care about Tundras now. He's wringing his hands over F150 gear ratios currently...
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