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I've lifted tires off the ground regularly for the last few years in our 2019 320 Vilano, including to change tires etc. I'd guess that ~20% of our campsites have one side or the other lifted off of the ground. The LevelUp system is certainly capable. I have MORryde IS also though. If you have standard leaf springs and equilizer you may end up inverting the spring/equilizer connection which will result in a big *bang* when it rights itself.


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^X2 I'm sitting with my wheels 2" off the ground after the 6 pt system leveled. Having experience broken springs and ripped spring hangers, I tend to keep an eye on the suspension system and my shackle links are not inverted. I see inverted links as the only potential problem to wheels off the ground. I do carry a 2x10 board that I can put under the low side wheels to keep some tension on the wheels. I've got two small level indicators stuck inside a cargo door to give me an idea of which jacks need help with wood blocks under them to avoid stroke out.

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MPI_Mallard wrote:

OK,, really appreciate the feed-back guy's!!! Just to "idiot-proof" this when I pull on my lot with the truck still connected I should,,

-place the 10x10" wedge blocks under the three jacks
-manually lower the front jacks to disconnect the truck
-jack up the two wheels and put the 10x18" wedge blocks under them
-then hit the "auto level" and crack a beer,,,,,am i right?

again thanks for your help!



Not sure how you are going to jack up the 2 wheels after disconnecting the truck. If you are putting anything under the wheels shouldn't that be step one? Then wedge blocks under the Lippert jacks; then lower the front jacks and disconnect truck. Then auto level and beverage!


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The Lippert 6 pt system (electric, in my experience, not hydraulic) has limited stroke of the jacks at the middle and rear. The front landing gear have plenty of manual and powered adjustment to get unhooked and level out. Getting unhooked is no problem. I will make a manual adjustment of the landing jacks base on my front to rear reading of my level indicators to make sure there is enough powered adjustment left in the landing gear. The middle and rear jacks have limited stroke and will fault the system when they hit limit. So, if the trailer is more than a few inches off level from side to side, blocks under the jacks will get the trailer to level but "could" lift the low side wheels off the ground. Pulling the low side wheels up on boards fist helps prevent that, but still requires blocks under the jacks to keep them from stroking out. I've done it both ways.

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MPI_Mallard wrote:

OK,, really appreciate the feed-back guy's!!! Just to "idiot-proof" this when I pull on my lot with the truck still connected I should,,

-place the 10x10" wedge blocks under the three jacks
-manually lower the front jacks to disconnect the truck
-jack up the two wheels and put the 10x18" wedge blocks under them
-then hit the "auto level" and crack a beer,,,,,am i right?

again thanks for your help!


The first thing I do is chock the trailer wheels, then disconnect and move the truck forward enough so that when the trailer self levels there is no chance of the pin box hitting the truck bed.

On a front to rear sloping pad the front legs will retract pretty far to achieve level.

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GaryUT wrote:

I use blocks under the low side tires to get the trailer within 2 or 3 inches of being level before I auto level. If I don't the jacks will lift the low side tires off the ground. I have a bubble level on the front of the fifth wheel to help getting it level side to side.


System is designed to have the tires off the ground, won't hurt anything.


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ford truck guy wrote:

Like above, IF the ground is that unlevel I would use a block or 2 of wood UNDER the ram only to prevent an " Out Of Stroke" warning when leveling.....

Had my 1 side tires off the ground a few times


I am setting above two tires off the ground right now. Has been that way since April.

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fj12ryder wrote:

Considering the capacity of the six point hydraulic leveling jacks, lifting tires off the ground isn't an issue. The builders say not to do it, but IMO that is strictly a CYA.


It's funny because so many times the tires are just touching and that gives some the warm and fuzzy. But lift a tire 1" off the ground and the sky is falling.

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All tires are off the ground still hooked up for one nights stay.

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One thing to worry about when lifting the camper off of the wheels is you lose your chocks.

See the youtube video
Losing your chocks bends your jacks

You can start around the 9:30 mark in the video.

Not saying it will happen every time, just saying it can happen. The Grand Design reps told them to use boards if that far off of level.

* This post was edited 09/13/22 10:37am by schlep1967 *


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