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Cummins12V98 wrote:

Flashman wrote:

Andersen - many advantages - light weight, easy to hook at odd angles and uneven ground.


YEP,


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How do other "traditional" 5th wheel hitches fare after an accident like the one that caused the Anderson hitch to buckle like in the pic.
I'm sure those Anderson hitches don't just buckle for no reason.


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TravelinDog wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Flashman wrote:

Andersen - many advantages - light weight, easy to hook at odd angles and uneven ground.


YEP,


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How do other "traditional" 5th wheel hitches fare after an accident like the one that caused the Anderson hitch to buckle like in the pic.
I'm sure those Anderson hitches don't just buckle for no reason.
This wasn't an accident, this was the result of heavy, perhaps panic, braking. There have been a couple, but haven't heard of any recently.


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Friend had a 42' Mobil Suites that she pulled with a B&W Companion hitch in a Ram 3500 DRW. The trailer was broad sided (dead center) and the truck and trailer were dragged some 75 feet before all stopped. The B&W and truck was over at 45 degrees, and the trailer on its side. The hitch was still latched and attached to the truck. The pin box was still on the trailer but bent and torn. The trailer was totaled.

The tow truck righted the trailer and the truck rolled back to all wheels down. The hydraulic jacks still worked, and they lifted the trailer up and the B&W hitch unlatched, and they pulled the truck from under the trailer. The truck was undamaged except for the bed damage.

Honestly do you think the Andersen could take that kind of impact? I am a retired mechanical engineer, and I would not have an Andersen hitch in my truck. It will work in normal towing, but any excessive impacts can collapse the hitch.

If you have to pull a 5er and a goose neck, the B&W Turn Over Ball and the Companion is your answer.

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fj12ryder wrote:

TravelinDog wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Flashman wrote:

Andersen - many advantages - light weight, easy to hook at odd angles and uneven ground.


YEP,


[image]


How do other "traditional" 5th wheel hitches fare after an accident like the one that caused the Anderson hitch to buckle like in the pic.
I'm sure those Anderson hitches don't just buckle for no reason.
This wasn't an accident, this was the result of heavy, perhaps panic, braking. There have been a couple, but haven't heard of any recently.



And most likely you won't . They redesigned the hitch after a couple of these that bent . What has failed to be mentioned was that nothing was damaged ,and the fifth wheel remained attached .

If its a fifth wheel hitch ,its had a failed or broke at some point . The B&W is not exempt .

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Okay, show the pictures of a failed B&W hitch. The only one I know about was involved in a roll-over accident. I've never heard of one failing when just doing hard braking or maneuvering.

How many times have they redesigned the Andersen hitch? Seems like letting your customers be your beta testers is kind of a bad idea. [emoticon]

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op asks wrote:

best hitch ?

This is why its not a good idea to ask which hitch or any product is best on this forum.
Some B&W owners like to bash the brand another has mentioned even though the B&W owner never owned the hitch.
I'm not a Andersen user but thousands of satisfied users out here with no problems.

As another poster mentioned we have several good RV type 5th wheel hitches to choose from. B&W is just one of them.

There is no best 5th wheel hitch brand/type/style other than the one we own.


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TravelinDog wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Flashman wrote:

Andersen - many advantages - light weight, easy to hook at odd angles and uneven ground.


YEP,


[image]


How do other "traditional" 5th wheel hitches fare after an accident like the one that caused the Anderson hitch to buckle like in the pic.
I'm sure those Anderson hitches don't just buckle for no reason.


In fact they do buckle! Under hard braking they simply did collapse. Now you get the Ultimate 2.

Look at their promotional video that shows how much direction downward weight they can stand. Do they show a lateral force test???? NOPE!!!

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JIMNLIN wrote:

op asks wrote:

best hitch ?

This is why its not a good idea to ask which hitch or any product is best on this forum.
Some B&W owners like to bash the brand another has mentioned even though the B&W owner never owned the hitch.
I'm not a Andersen user but thousands of satisfied users out here with no problems.

As another poster mentioned we have several good RV type 5th wheel hitches to choose from. B&W is just one of them.

There is no best 5th wheel hitch brand/type/style other than the one we own.


Would you use an Andersen to haul a HEAVY RV???

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TXiceman wrote:

Friend had a 42' Mobil Suites that she pulled with a B&W Companion hitch in a Ram 3500 DRW. The trailer was broad sided (dead center) and the truck and trailer were dragged some 75 feet before all stopped. The B&W and truck was over at 45 degrees, and the trailer on its side. The hitch was still latched and attached to the truck. The pin box was still on the trailer but bent and torn. The trailer was totaled.

The tow truck righted the trailer and the truck rolled back to all wheels down. The hydraulic jacks still worked, and they lifted the trailer up and the B&W hitch unlatched, and they pulled the truck from under the trailer. The truck was undamaged except for the bed damage.

Honestly do you think the Andersen could take that kind of impact? I am a retired mechanical engineer, and I would not have an Andersen hitch in my truck. It will work in normal towing, but any excessive impacts can collapse the hitch.

If you have to pull a 5er and a goose neck, the B&W Turn Over Ball and the Companion is your answer.

Ken



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