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Cptnvideo wrote:

It is my understanding that it is NOT needed IF you have certain hitches AND if a visual check is done.




Your comment right there " It is my understanding " that IMHO is what gets people in trouble. So what hitches don't you need to do a pull test ,and which ones do you need to do a pull test ???

It's obvious from the B&W owners you do not need a pull test ,what other ones ??? My Reese Elite has that big thick jaw that wraps around the pin , very obvious when it's wrapped around the pin ,is that another one okay for no pull test ??? My previous Reese hitch was a dual jaw that wrapped around the pin , it was obvious when it was closed , then we got the slide bar, although never owned one ,it would IMO be obvious if it was closed behind the pin. Are those ones the certain hitches that a visual is all that is needed ??? The list goes on ,just have decide which one needs the pull test ,and which ones don't it appears .

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Cptnvideo wrote:

It is my understanding that it is NOT needed IF you have certain hitches AND if a visual check is done.


When you say certain hitches, yes, some are safer than others. The operator's understanding of their hitch, and ability to operate it correctly is still a factor. It appears you have a quality hitch, but I've never used your model.

I've a serious question for cummins2014, a forum friend, that I know uses an Andersen hitch. Do you need to do a pull test, with this ball type hitch, and different style coupler attached to king pin?

Jerry





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With a TrailerSaver hitch, Bd3 or BD5, as noted, the hitch has to be put in the 9 o'clock position for hitching, once it's hooked, not only will you hear an audible locking sound, that wonderful clunking noise, but the hitch handle then moves to the 8 o'clock position and the locking jaws are closed. This hitch as a true Holland Binkley head. We've never done a pull test. Any position less than 8 o'clock means you're not locked and you have to start over.


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MFL wrote:

Cptnvideo wrote:

It is my understanding that it is NOT needed IF you have certain hitches AND if a visual check is done.


When you say certain hitches, yes, some are safer than others. The operator's understanding of their hitch, and ability to operate it correctly is still a factor. It appears you have a quality hitch, but I've never used your model.

I've a serious question for cummins2014, a forum friend, that I know uses an Andersen hitch. Do you need to do a pull test, with this ball type hitch, and different style coupler attached to king pin?

Jerry


Jerry ,not sure I want to answer that , I may have 12V come after me on that . [emoticon] But no there is no pull test on the Andersen ,nor has there ever been a discussion regarding the Andersen ,and a pull test that I know of . Although there has been plenty of other discussions regarding the Andersen . The one big thing is locking the adapter to the ball. I would not like find out if it could bounce off the ball. I have read where its been discovered being unlocked after travel, without issue.

I kinda get a feeling where this is leading , but its entirely different process hitching up an Andersen . Yes , it's all visual . It's lined up , and lowered on the ball, until the landing gear is raised off the ground . In my case with the six point leveling system they are raised all the way up . Then the handle is pushed in ,and locked . At that point it's hitched .

Let me point out ,because I have the feeling when you asked about a pull test ,and the possibly I am assuming you are thinking missing the ball entirely . Yes you could very well miss the ball, it would be tough on the newer Andersen's that have that red alignment cone. mine does not . In either case if you missed the ball ,you would be setting your fifth wheel on the bed rails of your truck, not a lot to stop it at that point . At some point in that process you would certainly know you are not on the ball. [emoticon]

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The best hitch is the one owned by anyone responding lol. No one is gonna say, "I have a Hazard Fraught Zoombanger but I'm a dumbass, the best hitch is an ACME U812."


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Cptnvideo wrote:

It is my understanding that it is NOT needed IF you have certain hitches AND if a visual check is done.


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Here is a certain hitch had the owner done a proper pull test there may have been no or very little damage.

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Exactly what I said. He obviously had one of those "certain" hitches in which a visual test wasn't enough.

Edit: OR he didn't even do a visual check.


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cummins2014 said: "Jerry ,not sure I want to answer that"

Thanks for the honest reply, and a good description of how you hookup! I have seen the Andersens already hooked/unhooked, but never watched the actual process. I can understand now, how a newer Andersen owner could drop on his bed, but a get out and look should solve that.

I know you know, that I was not baiting a trap, to cause any retaliation. We are mostly all friends, so all is good! [emoticon]

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Cptnvideo wrote:

Exactly what I said. He obviously had one of those "certain" hitches in which a visual test wasn't enough.

Edit: OR he didn't even do a visual check.


In the pic above, the owner did do a pull test, but not the visual check. In this case, it was a B&W hitch, but as I mentioned above, pull tests vary, and this fellow did not do a GOOD PULL TEST.

A visual check may have saved him from this damage?

Jerry

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ford truck guy wrote:

I started driving BIG TRUCKS back in the early 1980's.. It was POUNDED in my head to ALWAYS do a pull test when hooking up a new trailer.... Never dropped a trailer in all those years..

Fast forward, I am still in the habit of doing my pull test EVEN AFTER I visually verify my jaws are locked around the king pin.

Is it wrong of me?? who cares, I will continue to do it that way


Nothing WRONG at all!!! Just may loose a peg or two in the "B&W HeavyWeightFanBoy Club" [emoticon]


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