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Posted: 09/22/22 11:32am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

i guess we will not really know until it happens lots of speculation on it right now

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agesilaus wrote:


Will it? I get yjr impression it will be on the new constellation of Starlink sats. Also that article I posted give the impression that this be a T-Mobile service


For Data and phone service yes. For emergency I think there is a chance it would work for text only.


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wa8yxm wrote:

I can not speak for Samsung, Apple or Star link only how I would do it if I were designing the phone or it's program.

IF you lose cellular... (Out of range) I'd have the phone listen for a satellite and if it sees one it would display a message. It might even "handshake" with it and let you know if it gets and ACK or not.


Either they have tested the system and it works...or it doesn't. Providing you feedback in a non-emergency is not required and may degrade the operation.

The problem is if you have a million phones trying to do a handshake once a minute on a very limited capability system, there may be no bandwidth when there is a real message to send.


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Not sure I'd count on being able to access a satellite that's only used under extraordinary conditions.


the satellite service used will be starlink internet service that is used daily by those who have it.

don't know if there will be a way to test it we will see


I was referring to the Globalstar satellites used by the Apple iPhone 14 - not the Starlink satellites.

Apparently, the iPhone 14 doesn't use them for anything other than "SOS" service - which means that iPhone 14 users don't know if their Globalstar satellite access is actually working until they need it in an emergency.

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Posted: 09/23/22 11:23pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Skibane wrote:

I was referring to the Globalstar satellites used by the Apple iPhone 14 - not the Starlink satellites.

Apparently, the iPhone 14 doesn't use them for anything other than "SOS" service - which means that iPhone 14 users don't know if their Globalstar satellite access is actually working until they need it in an emergency.
I agree seems more Hail Mary than handshake.

Still.... cell towers could be obsolete in a decade.

Uncontrolled internet communication will be a new world order. Not sure if better or worse.


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globalstar Satellites powered by a proprietary network of satellites that are Always On, and Always Reliable.


The Globalstar Satellite Network

the iphone 14 says the service will be free for 2 years then there will be a monthly charge no word on how much though.
if you do a lot hiking or mountain climbing in areas without cell service it may be worth it. have to wait and see how well it works.

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Its simple. Set phone to wifi calling and it goes over starlink wifi router. I have starlink and thats what I use, in low or non existant cell phone signal areas. Starlink is A+ in the rv.


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Crabbypatty wrote:

Its simple. Set phone to wifi calling and it goes over starlink wifi router.


Eventually, some passenger vehicles will offer a built-in Starlink terminal as a factory option - which will make what you're describing commonplace.

No need for a smartphone-to-satellite direct connection, when you can just tether your smartphone to the satellite terminal in your vehicle instead.

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