jaycocreek wrote:

Why would you buy a Battleborn battery(cylindrical cells) for just under $1000 when you can buy almost three Ampertime(Eve cells) Zooms/redodo(Ganfeng cells or even Enjoybot(Gotion cells) for the same price?

jaycocreek wrote:

Everyone is worried about the price of the larger power stations yet...

Why would you buy a Battleborn battery(cylindrical cells) for just under $1000 when you can buy almost three Ampertime(Eve cells) Zooms/redodo(Ganfeng cells or even Enjoybot(Gotion cells) for the same price?

Again..To each his own..LOL

fourthclassC wrote:

Side BAR: Using electricity to heat water (as in coffee maker) makes no sense to me. You can save power by using your gas stove to percolate / press.....

Gdetrailer wrote:



The using those overpriced portable battery packs are the wrong way of going about this.

Jackery 1,000 has about 40Ahr worth of battery, that's it.

You cannot directly hook the jackery (or any other portable battery/inverter) to your existing 12V battery. They have power limited 12V cig ports to max of 8A.

Some back of the napkin figuring..

To get any sort of "value" from those devices you must use the built in inverter.

The downside to this is the inverter eats up 15% of your portable battery capacity bringing that 40Ah down to 34Ahr..

Now you have 120V but you can't plug that 120V directly to your 12V battery..

So, now we must consider the power loss of your converter.. That is another 15%..

So now your 40Ahr portable battery/inverter now becomes a 28Ahr "generator" and 28Ahr isn't going to get you squat for added camping time.

So, $1000 for 28Ahr portable battery or add some extra batteries and solar to your rig?

$1,000 can buy you a lot of 12V battery and solar capacity.

Cheapest option is adding two GC2 6V batteries (wired in series to get 12V) nets you 210Ahr for $180, granted You don't want to 100% drain the GC2s but you can draw as much as 80% and not take much of a cut in battery life giving you 168Ahr of capacity to work with.

More expensive option is Lithium batteries, they are still a bit on the experimental side of life and expensive but they can pack a lot of energy in that package.. $260 can buy you one 100Ahr Lithium battery (gives you 4 times more capacity than the portable device) and the claim to fame is you can use all of the battery capacity..

Solar panels you can get 100W panels for $90 now days..

As far as battery capacity goes, I use a 10 cu ft residential fridge in my TT and one pair of 6V GCs (wired in series for 12V) gives 210 Ahr and that setup easily powers my fridge plus lights plus furnace overnight for 20hrs-24hrs before needing to recharge.. I do not have any solar..

Those portable battery/inverter things simply do not have enough battery capacity to make a meaningful difference and add in an inverter you didn't need since you already have an inverter.

The manufacturers of those portable battery/inverters have done a very good job appealing to the masses using terms like "generator" or "quiet power" "quiet generator" "clean power" Clean generator" while hiding the downsides like the more power you draw, the less time you get power, all the while beating you over the head with severely over inflated prices..

Wish I had though of that a couple of yrs ago, I could have been a billionaire by now by feeding off folks wishful thinking

Don't get me wrong, they can be somewhat useful, sort of like if you need some 120V power for a short time and don't wish to run 250ft of extension cords to get it to you..