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Posted: 09/06/22 04:09pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Question: When going over uneven railroad tracks or something similar, can the gooseneck style hitch allow the trailer to tilt enough sideways to damage the pickup bed rails?


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Posted: 09/06/22 05:54pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Cptnvideo wrote:

Question: When going over uneven railroad tracks or something similar, can the gooseneck style hitch allow the trailer to tilt enough sideways to damage the pickup bed rails?


Sure.

The issue with a gooseneck lowers the hitch pivot point. That creates a larger lever arm on the hitch for acceleration and braking forces where the hitch connects to the trailer frame.

If it was designed to accommodate those forces, it can be fine.
- If you look as typical gooseneck trailers, they have big heavily built beams to take those forces.
- If you pull the skin off your average 5th wheel, the frame is far less robust.

Also, keep in mind, if you drive mostly on smooth roads with very gentle acceleration and deceleration, that will reduce the loads on the frame substantially, so if someone says they got away with a gooseneck for years, doesn't mean you won't hit a pothole during a panic braking and crack your trailer frame day one.

Check with the manufacturer and if they say they will warranty damage related to a gooseneck, you are probably fine. If not, you roll the dice and take your chances.

PS: There are 5th wheel hitches that attach to a gooseneck ball (rather than rails) thus raising the pivot point such that it's similar to a standard 5th wheel hitch. Those should be fine.


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spoon059 wrote:

TXiceman wrote:

Goose neck trailers are specifically built to be pulled by a goose neck ball. Adding an after-market adapter to a 5th wheel trailer does not make it suitable to tow from a goose neck ball.

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The GooseBox is nothing more than a glorified adapter with an air bag. I would not put on my RV even though Lippert guarantees it. Lippert now owns Reese.

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BB_TX wrote:

If you are buying new, Lippert frames approve a Goosebox adapter (has shock absorbers and air bag) but not rigid adapters.


That is incorrect information. I have a Lippert Gooseneck Connect that does not void Lippert's warranty. https://store.lci1.com/gooseneck-connect-21k-2020043670

Pulled my 45' toyhauler 6 thousand miles so far, no problem.


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C Schomer wrote:

I built my RV bed for fifth wheel hitch and gooseneck ball. When I had both kinds of trailers I was constantly switching back-and-forth so I put a king pin post on my gooseneck trailer so the fifth wheel hitch worked for both. That was the best of both worlds… The easiest hitching for both trailers and no gooseneck adapter problem on the fifth wheel RV.


I will mention this setup to my uncle. He also has two trailers and he's tired of switching. We'll just finish installing the new suspension and truck tires on his F250 this week before we can work on the hitch.

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