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MitchF150

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I'm old enough to remember way back when on RV.net a lot of people said if they would just make a 1/2 ton diesel I would buy it.
I was holding out for a Ford F150 diesel but they brought out the EB instead.


The F150 had a 3.0 "Power Stroke" option from 2018-2021.

The "Power Boost" and now the new "Lightning" are going to the "EV" trend now..

I think I've seen maybe 2 or 3 of those 3.0 Power Stroke F150's EVER..

Same with the other 1/2 tons with the oil burner option.. So, I remember that whole "If it came with a diesel, I'd get one too" said a lot as well..

They cost some 3 grand more right off the top just for the engine option, but you still didn't get any additional payload, and they probably weighed more too..

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Coming from a certified diesel tech, great!!! Any diesel with the word ECO in its name is a ticking time bomb!

Even the newer HD diesels aren’t as reliable due to the emissions carp they slap onto it!


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MitchF150 wrote:

So, I remember that whole "If it came with a diesel, I'd get one too" said a lot as well..


To be fair, things changed. Pre-2007, it made sense. Then the 2007 emissions, and 2010 emissions, came along and the industry's solutions to those regulations have given diesels a bad rap and removed any financial benefit to owning one.

Then the manufacturers' offerings have been lackluster, overpriced, "plagued with issues" (perceived or real is irrelevant).


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Coming from a certified diesel tech, great!!! Any diesel with the word ECO in its name is a ticking time bomb!

Even the newer HD diesels aren’t as reliable due to the emissions carp they slap onto it!

Yeah, like most things, some have no issues and others do.
I wouldn’t call the eco diesel a disaster. I’d still take 1 or them over 3 6.0 or 6.4 Flowerjokes.
But they were not without their issues.


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mkirsch wrote:

MitchF150 wrote:

So, I remember that whole "If it came with a diesel, I'd get one too" said a lot as well..


To be fair, things changed. Pre-2007, it made sense. Then the 2007 emissions, and 2010 emissions, came along and the industry's solutions to those regulations have given diesels a bad rap and removed any financial benefit to owning one.

Then the manufacturers' offerings have been lackluster, overpriced, "plagued with issues" (perceived or real is irrelevant).


Yup. 1 ruined trip or a plugged dpf out of warranty sure negates a lot of fuel savings.

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mkirsch wrote:

MitchF150 wrote:

So, I remember that whole "If it came with a diesel, I'd get one too" said a lot as well..


To be fair, things changed. Pre-2007, it made sense. Then the 2007 emissions, and 2010 emissions, came along and the industry's solutions to those regulations have given diesels a bad rap and removed any financial benefit to owning one.

Then the manufacturers' offerings have been lackluster, overpriced, "plagued with issues" (perceived or real is irrelevant).


Yeah.. I only wanted a "V8" when I was looking for my next truck back in 2013.. Diesel was only for the "full float axle" guys as far as I was concerned. [emoticon]

My Dad had a 2005 3500 Dually Ram and I told him to just hang on to it, as it didn't use that DEF stuff.. He towed a BA 5th wheel at the time, so that's what he needed..

Took my chance on the little V6 twin turbo, as that's what was on the lot and had all the other stuff I wanted at a decent price..

EV is the next thing, but gonna be too old by then to care.. ha, ha.. I'll just hang on to my gas engine stuff as I'll never need a HD truck for what I do.

Mitch

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Coming from a certified diesel tech, great!!! Any diesel with the word ECO in its name is a ticking time bomb!

Even the newer HD diesels aren’t as reliable due to the emissions carp they slap onto it!


Kind of reminds you of the 70's when we smog equipment stated on gas burning cars. Performance went from decent to less than mediocre. But now, granted almost 50 years later the emissions are worked out and the cars perform better than ever and are more reliable to boot. Now it's the diesel engines turn. It will suck for a while, but the manufacturers will eventually get it right.


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Turtle n Peeps wrote:

I'm old enough to remember way back when on RV.net a lot of people said if they would just make a 1/2 ton diesel I would buy it. Well, they made it and I guess a lot of those people were not telling the truth. Or not enough of them anyway.


Not so much people wouldn't buy a diesel. The Guberment regulations forced the manufacturers to undermine what would make a diesel a great option for a 1/2 ton truck. Then shocker...they were unreasonably expensive, less reliable and people didn't buy them.


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2112 wrote:

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I'm old enough to remember way back when on RV.net a lot of people said if they would just make a 1/2 ton diesel I would buy it.
I was holding out for a Ford F150 diesel but they brought out the EB instead.
The F150 had a 3.0 "Power Stroke" option from 2018-2021.
I'm talking 2006-2011 timeframe. Before the 3.5L EB.


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Grit dog wrote:

dodge guy wrote:

Coming from a certified diesel tech, great!!! Any diesel with the word ECO in its name is a ticking time bomb!

Even the newer HD diesels aren’t as reliable due to the emissions carp they slap onto it!

Yeah, like most things, some have no issues and others do.
I wouldn’t call the eco diesel a disaster. I’d still take 1 or them over 3 6.0 or 6.4 Flowerjokes.
But they were not without their issues.


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