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Posted: 09/27/22 09:31pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Grit dog wrote:

dodge guy wrote:

30k on LT tires is about right.


Huh?
Or do you mean on OE LT tires?


The Pirellis on my Excursion went around 40k. I replaced them with some BFG AT TAs and they on,y went about 30k. I replaced them with some General Grabber HTS and they went about 45k. OE AT tires will only go 30-35k at most when towing.

HT (highway tires) will last longer as it’s a straight highway tread with a harder compound. AT tires (All Terrain) have a more rugged tread and a softer compound.


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way2roll wrote:

Apparently the OEM Goodyear wranglers on my F350 are not the best tires. A little over 30k miles and they are worn out already. For some reason I recall getting 50-60k miles on tires on my previous F150. Are larger trucks that much harder on tires or are these just cheap?


Yes. I am shocked how much faster my BFGs wear on my F250 vs F150. Its a good 10k mile difference. But it is 1500lbs heavier.

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OEM tires are not made for a lot of miles. HD trucks will certainly wear out tires MUCH faster than a F150.

My RAM has about 100,000 miles on it, and I've replaced the tires three times. The Yokohama's that were the first set I bought got 17,000 miles (Discount Tire did help me out with the replacement). The Bridgestone's are wearing better, but I won't see 50,000 miles out of them.

I never believe those that claim high miles out of tires on a HD. Those are probably the same guys that get 20 MPG towing at 80 MPH.

And, FWIW, our 2019 Expedition has 36,000 miles and the Hankook OEM tires are also worn out. They will be replaced with Michelin before the snow flies.


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The only tires that ever impressed me over the years were Goodyear Workhorse tires, they were a bit noisy but they wore like iron on my 1985 k3500. Currently we're running Cooper AT's and they aren't that great. I've also had good wear out of Uniroyal tires on half tons though.

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I ran the OEM Michelin LT265/70-17 E LTX AS on my '03 2500 Dodge/ Cummins for 113k miles before they finally wore down close to the wear bars. The tire had hard rubber with very poor traction on any wet/frozen surface.
The same OEM Michelins in a 16" LT E on a new '01 2500 Dodge/Cummins lasted 84k miles close to the wear bars.
Went with a Bridgestone Revo at that time. Huge gain in traction. Ran them for 68k miles till they made too much noise for my use.
I'm rural out here with lots of highway miles with very little city miles. I'm a conservative driver and don't square my corner turns like I see many LDTs/cars/suv drivers do.

I've always got over 60k mile out of light truck tires on 3/4 and one ton LDTs even the ones I had in service (hiway).

I still use Bridgestone or Cooper AT type tires on my LDTs.


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JIMNLIN wrote:

I ran the OEM Michelin LT265/70-17 E LTX AS on my '03 2500 Dodge/ Cummins for 113k miles before they finally wore down close to the wear bars. The tire had hard rubber with very poor traction on any wet/frozen surface.
The same OEM Michelins in a 16" LT E on a new '01 2500 Dodge/Cummins lasted 84k miles close to the wear bars.
Went with a Bridgestone Revo at that time. Huge gain in traction. Ran them for 68k miles till they made too much noise for my use.
I'm rural out here with lots of highway miles with very little city miles. I'm a conservative driver and don't square my corner turns like I see many LDTs/cars/suv drivers do.

I've always got over 60k mile out of light truck tires on 3/4 and one ton LDTs even the ones I had in service (hiway).

I still use Bridgestone or Cooper AT type tires on my LDTs.


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People doing any kind of highway use will always get more miles on tires than someone like me that does maybe 20% highway. I'm always scrubbing the front tires on turns, stop and go one in micro spinning or skidding the tires. This can easily make a 2-1 ratio of Mike's per tire highway vs city use.
Even the rubber compound, tread design etc make a difference

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blt2ski wrote:

JIMNLIN wrote:

I ran the OEM Michelin LT265/70-17 E LTX AS on my '03 2500 Dodge/ Cummins for 113k miles before they finally wore down close to the wear bars. The tire had hard rubber with very poor traction on any wet/frozen surface.
The same OEM Michelins in a 16" LT E on a new '01 2500 Dodge/Cummins lasted 84k miles close to the wear bars.
Went with a Bridgestone Revo at that time. Huge gain in traction. Ran them for 68k miles till they made too much noise for my use.
I'm rural out here with lots of highway miles with very little city miles. I'm a conservative driver and don't square my corner turns like I see many LDTs/cars/suv drivers do.

I've always got over 60k mile out of light truck tires on 3/4 and one ton LDTs even the ones I had in service (hiway).

I still use Bridgestone or Cooper AT type tires on my LDTs.


Jimlin
People doing any kind of highway use will always get more miles on tires than someone like me that does maybe 20% highway. I'm always scrubbing the front tires on turns, stop and go one in micro spinning or skidding the tires. This can easily make a 2-1 ratio of Mike's per tire highway vs city use.
Even the rubber compound, tread design etc make a difference

Marty


Both very informative posts and things that most people don’t comprehend or even think about.
To bionic man’s post, Colorado was the most tire eatin’ place I’ve lived. But we were in the mountains and every drive to anywhere was high speed highway with tight turns. Only place I routinely would have tires flipped outside in on the rims to get more tire life as the outside half of tread would wear quicker than the inside.
AZ seemed bad too. Maybe all the mountain towing and extreme heat.
By comparison, living in W WA for the last decade, is the easist conditions on tires.
My reasoning, not as extreme speed and curves as the Rockies. Even the major passes here are less extreme and I90 is pretty straight comparatively over Snoq. Less heat and duration of hot weather in the summer and the big one, rain. An avg of over half the year on wet roads equals less tire wear from all actions as driver controlled input is less harsh by default and coefficient of friction is less and easier on the rubber.


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All that said, skinny little tires on the front of a heavy diesel dually combined with very few running true steering tires on LDTs is one of the worst recipes for long tire life.

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We got over 60K miles with OEM Goodyear tires on our Chev 2500. Most towing 5th wheel or gooseneck trailers. Such a great tire, I put the same tire on when we needed new tires.

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Grit dog wrote:

All that said, skinny little tires on the front of a heavy diesel dually combined with very few running true steering tires on LDTs is one of the worst recipes for long tire life.


On my 05 DW D/A 4x, I kept the 216-85 rear tires, put a same diam reves per mile 245-75-16 hwy tire. On IHC, put 245-75-19.5 instead of stock 8-19.5, again, same diam etc....both doubled the front tire life due to the fatter tires on the front. Steering, braking was better too.

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