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LarryDel

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Posted: 10/10/22 09:57am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

We have a 2022 Forest River Flagstaff Microlite 21FBRS travel trailer. My tow vehicle is a 2012 Chevrolet Silverado 6.2L with the max trailer package. On a recent trip, our truck brakes had a problem. Had to push all the way to the floor to stop and it took a while. And we were on a flat road. Fortunately we were close to home, so we drove slowly and carefully to our house. We disconnected the trailer. I then drove my truck for a while. The brakes worked just fine. So I concluded the problem was with the trailer. My question is why did the trailer cause my truck brakes to fail?

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Posted: 10/10/22 11:14am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

You don't say what brake controller you have, or if IBC, but in any case, what you describe does not seem possible, just connecting the trailer?

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Posted: 10/10/22 11:15am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Is your trailer brake controller set so that you can feel the trailer brakes working? Sounds like the trailer is pushing you.

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“Had to push all the way to the floor to stop and it took a while.”

Even with no trailer brakes the truck’s brake pedal should never reach the floor. Start with having a pro check the truck’s braking system. Low fluid?


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klutchdust wrote:

Is your trailer brake controller set so that you can feel the trailer brakes working? Sounds like the trailer is pushing you.


It does sound like brake fade, due to trailer not braking, pushing the truck down lengthy mountain grades, but on level ground, the driver would have to be towing with his foot continually riding the brake pedal.

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There's more to what you just posted.
Truck brakes don't "not work" and then work again.
How much experience do you have towing and how well do the trailer brakes work?


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While possible I find it difficult to imagine the trailer brakes causing the truck brakes to fail. But on the surface it does sound like brake fade from too much heat.

When you say this occurred on a flat road, had you been on that flat road for a while or had you just come down out of the mountains.

In your estimate what was the time gap between the last successful or normal feeling application of your brakes and the brake application where you had to press really hard? If you were in traffic and constantly having to touch the brakes prior you might have overheated them.

Which foot left or right do you typically use to brake? I have known some people to use their left foot to brake and they inadvertently rest their left foot on the brake pedal. While they think they are not applying the brakes they usually are and it results in very rapid break wear and heat.

Were you pumping the brakes even lightly before you stopped? I don't know your braking system but on many vacuum boosted hydraulic braking systems it is possible to press the pedal to the floor. To do this you typically have to press slowly but hard on the pedal for a few seconds then lift your foot a bit but not all the way and then press again. After a few cycles you will find the pedal very low if not all the way on the floor. But typically the brakes will be on very firmly at the end of this.

How fast were you going and were you in a panic stop situation or was this just a normal stop and it just felt wrong? I've had a panic stop from about 35 mph and I the the brakes hard and I swear nothing happened. Fortunately after what seemed like an eternity but was really probably only a half second the trailer brakes came on hard and we got stopped with about a foot to spare.

Is there a flat light traffic highway where you can try unplugging the trailer umbilical and try to reproduce the same braking? Just be aware that your brakes might suck and there will be no brake lights on the trailer to warn people behind you that you are stopping. If nothing else this will at least tell you if your tow vehicles brakes alone can safely bring your setup to a stop albeit with an increased stopping distance.


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Get the truck brakes checked NOW! The next time they fail you might be coming up to a red light at a busy intersection.
Asking for brake repair on a discussion forum won't stop the truck.

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Tyler0215 wrote:

Get the truck brakes checked NOW! The next time they fail you might be coming up to a red light at a busy intersection.
Asking for brake repair on a discussion forum won't stop the truck.


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Fortunately we were close to home, so we drove slowly and carefully to our house.


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Posted: 10/10/22 04:45pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

And low fluid means a leak most of the time.

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