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It's good to hear that inventory is improving. It's annoying to not be able to get what you want. In my case there may have been a silver lining as I ended up with something that had been under my radar. It may turn out to be a better choice than what I thought I wanted.
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Dadoffourgirls
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Pbutler97 wrote:Bionic Man wrote:
And I’ll call BS on the 2500 gasser comment.
I'll call BS on your BS call.
Make up what story you want. I will call BS on the gasser concept. There is data available if you pay or search hard enough.
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Pbutler97 wrote:Grit dog wrote:JALLEN4 wrote:Grit dog wrote:JALLEN4 wrote:In Sept 2019 there were 3.45 million new units in dealer inventories. That is a number that has been over 4 million in the past. At the end of September 2022 dealers had 1.23 million units in stock which would include those ordered sold but not yet delivered or reported sold. One might imagine there is a long way to go before you could consider them plentiful!
Love obscure stats from the Googler, like when announcers find weird stats about athletes …
“Tom Brady has won 8 out of 10 games on a Monday night with a full moon…” type of thing.
All I know is around here, one of the MOST expensive places in the country to buy, well, about anything except seafood maybe, RV lots that were empty for 2 years are chock full, just about every dealer. Car dealers are filling back up. Very quickly and noticeably.
And since I happen to be truck shopping, have noticed that in other parts of the country, some trucks (half tons) are being offered at significantly lower than msrp again, and that trend increases by what seems to be weekly.
I’m increasingly confident that by the next presidential election, the country’s economy will be sitting approximately at the Rio Grande river! (It will have gone that far south…lol)
Unfortunate for some. I can’t wait for it to happen from a personal financial perspective.
I am sure you are right. It is much more accurate to ride around in your neighborhood and make your own assessment instead of looking at actual statistics. As a forty year new car dealer now retired, I somewhat know how this deal works and I will stick with actual real numbers!
Well, as a car dealer, why would so many dealers be suddenly offering big discounts again if inventory is still only about 1/3 of “normal?” That’s really scary cause it must mean even less than 1/3 of the “ normal “ amount of customers are buying certain types of vehicles?
3 months ago and for a year and a half previous to that, a local Ford dealer was telling everyone anything you wanted was 4-6 months out and with an added across the board $5K "market adjustment". Saturday they had 39 F-150s and 23 Super Duty's on the lot. Not in transit, not pre sold. They even have 15 Broncos lined up all in a row. As a thirty year new vehicle buyer, now working his butt off, I somewhat know how this deal works lol.
Please give this dealers name as he might have what I am looking for. I am also interested in these big discounts you talk of.
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Travlingman wrote:
Please give this dealers name as he might have what I am looking for. I am also interested in these big discounts you talk of.
Just get on Autotrader and see who's offering discounts. Search nationwide and by lowest price for a specific model or keyword and the info appears right in front of you.
This thread is not going anywhere. Especially since the "expert" car dealer has chimed in....
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New vehicles are still pretty scarce on the ground in Los Anchorage...that being said, the Chevy Dealer (across the street from work) now has about 10 new pickups (1-2 1500's, the rest 2500 / 3500) on the lot vs. 1 at 6 months ago. The Ferd dealer (pass it twice a day) has an increasing # of 150's, maybe increasing 250's 350's, but they were never as low as the Chevy so hard to see if there's been a big increase.
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And public service message…
Announcing to the world (internet) that you’re a car dealer is sort of like announcing you sell life insurance policies or buy 1 get 3 free c rap on late night TV. It doesn’t boost the average person’s opinion of you.
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I have 2 Ford dealerships within 15 miles of me. One has no Super Duty trucks the other has 1 F250XL. Combined, they have 10 F150s, and 2 F150 Lightnings. As of the first of October, there was still close to 30K ford trucks parked at the Kentucky speedway awaiting chips.
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My bad - wrong post
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Bionic Man
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FishOnOne wrote:Bionic Man wrote:Maybe it’s a regional thing, but our local auto dealerships certainly are still very short of inventory.
And I’ll call BS on the 2500 gasser comment. I’ve seen reports in the past from RAM that an astronomical % of their sales were Cummins. And you can see it driving around too. Regardless of brand, if it’s a heavy duty it almost always has a diesel in it.
There was a time when almost all Ram HD trucks were cummins powered, but in the last few years I've seen an increasing trend of Ram trucks with the Hemi badge on the truck and there's no denying that and now I see several every day. I spoke with the guy who was driving this cab and chassis truck about his hemi powered truck. He said that his company was transitioning to hemi's.
You can call BS but we now know Cummins is coming out with gas engines and it must be for a reason.
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His statement wasn't that there are more gasser HDs sold today than in the past. I wouldn't argue that.
His statement was that gassers outsell diesel in 2500's "by a long shot".
You are going to claim that as well?
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Bionic Man wrote:FishOnOne wrote:Bionic Man wrote:Maybe it’s a regional thing, but our local auto dealerships certainly are still very short of inventory.
And I’ll call BS on the 2500 gasser comment. I’ve seen reports in the past from RAM that an astronomical % of their sales were Cummins. And you can see it driving around too. Regardless of brand, if it’s a heavy duty it almost always has a diesel in it.
There was a time when almost all Ram HD trucks were cummins powered, but in the last few years I've seen an increasing trend of Ram trucks with the Hemi badge on the truck and there's no denying that and now I see several every day. I spoke with the guy who was driving this cab and chassis truck about his hemi powered truck. He said that his company was transitioning to hemi's.
You can call BS but we now know Cummins is coming out with gas engines and it must be for a reason.
His statement wasn't that there are more gasser HDs sold today than in the past. I wouldn't argue that.
His statement was that gassers outsell diesel in 2500's "by a long shot".
You are going to claim that as well?
I missed that part of his quote. Having said that I agree with your statement.
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