Pbutler97
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Dealers lots around Ohio/western PA are filling up with certain models. Not many heavy duty trucks but I'm seeing a few Chevy and GMC 2500's sit for weeks before being sold and a lot in the pipeline. 1/2 tons are everywhere. Monitoring black book trade and used retail values, they're dropping like a stone. The Dealers I have recently talked to are holding at MSRP on new with one willing to go below MSRP on a 2500 that has been sitting for over 6 weeks. Expect them all to have to start dealing again. Sales are down and dropping. No wonder if you've seen the prices at the grocery store recently and follow the number of companies announcing layoffs or hiring freezes.
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BB_TX
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I haven’t seen that many 1/2 tons showing up on lots here yet. Diesel prices around here are from $1.70 to $1.85 higher than regular gas. That’s $50-$55 more for a 30 gal fill up. That’s going to make those who don’t actually need a diesel think twice about buying one.
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Pbutler97
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BB_TX wrote:I haven’t seen that many 1/2 tons showing up on lots here yet. Diesel prices around here are from $1.70 to $1.85 higher than regular gas. That’s $50-$55 more for a 30 gal fill up. That’s going to make those who don’t actually need a diesel think twice about buying one.
You may have not seen Anything yet with diesel prices. Interest rates are also shooting up but when sales fall off enough the manufacturers financial arms will still be offering low rates if ones score is sufficient. More 3/4 tons are sold with gas engines than diesel by a longshot regardless.
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Me Again
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Pbutler97 wrote: More 3/4 tons are sold with gas engines than diesel by a longshot regardless.
Could you show us where you got that statistic? That certainly is not the norm in Western States.
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Me Again wrote:Pbutler97 wrote: More 3/4 tons are sold with gas engines than diesel by a longshot regardless.
Could you show us where you got that statistic? That certainly is not the norm in Western States.
It’s a back east thing. Waaay more HD gassers.
Low altitude, very few mountains, and the biggest reason in the northern states, a diesel doesn’t hold the same value when it’s in the rust belt and is a pile of corrosion with a ‘spensive motor before the engine is worn out.
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Pbutler97
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Me Again wrote:Pbutler97 wrote: More 3/4 tons are sold with gas engines than diesel by a longshot regardless.
Could you show us where you got that statistic? That certainly is not the norm in Western States.
I know that statistic from dealing with sales managers over the last 20 years or so when it comes to fleet/commercial sales. Where did you get your statistic that it's not the norm in Western states? Visual observation on the highway?
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Pbutler97
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To take it one step further, I received an email from a sales guy at RV wholesalers in Ohio yesterday offering to knock another $4000.00 off the Travel trailer they sent me a quote on about 3 weeks ago. Seeing I have not had that happen for about 4 years that speaks volumes about sales of big ticket items in general.
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JIMNLIN
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Dealers lots here in my part of the state are still few if any new models of the brand they carry. Most lots are still 75 percent empty.
However go by a Ford dealers lot and we see used Ford/GM Ram/and even Toyoto trucks.Same with a GM dealer.
These are small town dealers...not being around a big city things maybe different for those dealers.
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In Sept 2019 there were 3.45 million new units in dealer inventories. That is a number that has been over 4 million in the past. At the end of September 2022 dealers had 1.23 million units in stock which would include those ordered sold but not yet delivered or reported sold. One might imagine there is a long way to go before you could consider them plentiful!
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BB_TX
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Pbutler97 wrote:Me Again wrote:Pbutler97 wrote: More 3/4 tons are sold with gas engines than diesel by a longshot regardless.
Could you show us where you got that statistic? That certainly is not the norm in Western States.
I know that statistic from dealing with sales managers over the last 20 years or so when it comes to fleet/commercial sales. Where did you get your statistic that it's not the norm in Western states? Visual observation on the highway?
The fleet sales is what pushes the numbers toward gas rather than diesel. Most 250/2500 work trucks in this area are gas. Privately owned trucks are more likely diesel even if they are used for nothing more than daily drivers. That may change with the costs of diesel on top of the cost of the engine.
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