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If you are serious about towing, get rid of the lift and the larger tires. Go back to stock for a stable towing platform. The single most misunderstood term with a 3/4 ton truck is the limited GVWR and rear axle GAWR. SUre it can to w a lot, but the thing that will get yo is the limited cargo capacity and tongue weight.

The cargo weight on any truck is the total of the passengers, cargo and tongue or pin weight.

Lifting the truck may look cool, but it does decrease towing capacity and stability.

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For all the reasons posted, you have reduced your towing capacity and stability. I would call the folks at Propride and see what they suggest you can tow with one of their hitches. Their hitch will give you back the stability you have lost with your modifications at the cost of $ and some inconvenience when hitching.


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For all the reasons posted, you have reduced your towing capacity and stability. I would call the folks at Propride and see what they suggest you can tow with one of their hitches. Their hitch will give you back the stability you have lost with your modifications at the cost of $ and some inconvenience when hitching.


Not sure how any hitch could return any stability. You might sell the idea that it does not allow the trailer to further reduce stability but even that idea would have to go cheap.

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Thanks for all your help!
I’m glad I’m doing the research to make sure I’m making my family and other drivers safe. I didn’t know what kind of hitch so I’m glad to hear I need a weight distribution hitch - any particular ones that are best?
I’m totally fine with doing a smaller travel trailer. Would you all recommend 10,000 gvwr max for the weight of the trailer?
Unfortunately just bought this truck and didn’t even think about towing when purchased so it’s definitely a lesson I’ve learned. I’m not looking to trade in for a dually or pay to lower the lift/smaller tires at the moment, therefore I understand a smaller trailer is what I’ll have to settle for. Just need to know what gvwr weight for the trailer I should not go over

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ProjectMon wrote:

For all the reasons posted, you have reduced your towing capacity and stability. I would call the folks at Propride and see what they suggest you can tow with one of their hitches. Their hitch will give you back the stability you have lost with your modifications at the cost of $ and some inconvenience when hitching.


Not sure how any hitch could return any stability. You might sell the idea that it does not allow the trailer to further reduce stability but even that idea would have to go cheap.


Quite right. The Propride or Arrow will not return stability to an already degraded towing platform, but since they reduce the issues introduced by the trailer, they require less stability from the towing platform and get you back to about the same place.

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by your last reply ,you have not learned a darn thing. let us know what roads you,ll be on ,so we can take a another route.

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We met a guy in Tennessee who was towing with a lifted truck, looked like 6-8 inch lift. We noticed it because he had converted his trailer to a 5th wheel, a well done conversion with lots of reinforcing. He said it was necessary because he said it simply wouldn't tow safely as a bumper pull. He said it consistently scared the heck out of him. His buddy was a certified welder and they fabbed up a very good looking conversion to his trailer.

I certainly don't see many lifted trucks towing trailers.


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emilyjane918 wrote:

Thanks for all your help!
I’m glad I’m doing the research to make sure I’m making my family and other drivers safe. I didn’t know what kind of hitch so I’m glad to hear I need a weight distribution hitch - any particular ones that are best?
I’m totally fine with doing a smaller travel trailer. Would you all recommend 10,000 gvwr max for the weight of the trailer?
Unfortunately just bought this truck and didn’t even think about towing when purchased so it’s definitely a lesson I’ve learned. I’m not looking to trade in for a dually or pay to lower the lift/smaller tires at the moment, therefore I understand a smaller trailer is what I’ll have to settle for. Just need to know what gvwr weight for the trailer I should not go over


I'm not sure what everyone is talking about, I see lifted trucks pulling trailers all the time. Your payload is the key ingredient in understanding what you can tow, however, with the modifications to your truck you have reduced that limit. I'm sure a 5th wheel is out but I do see lifted trucks with 5th wheels, not sure about the 6" lift. Make sure you are looking at trailers with a tongue weight well below your maximum rating. The 10,000lbs is meaningless, because you run out of payload on tongue weight before you reach the max tow weight. You might not be able to find a toy hauler that meets that weight restriction. I know you wouldn't with a 5th wheel, but not sure about a small bumper pull. When you get it, makes sure you have the right hitch, then go easy until you get use to the handling of the truck trailer combo. Happy Camping.

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Let me ask a question: how many are in your family (that would go camping)
And two how far are you thinking about going?

Personally I suspect that you could only safely tow a very light trailer. A popup or Trailmanor/HiLo

As for hitches:
Amazon WDH

But again call one of the manufacturers to get expert advice. I might avoid Camco who has no reputation in the WDH field. Blue OX is very heavy I believe which might compound your problems.

ETrailer is another phone option, they specialize in trailer equipment.

I think any of them will see flashing red lights screaming LIABILITY ALERT!!! when you call


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agesilaus wrote:

Let me ask a question: how many are in your family (that would go camping)
And two how far are you thinking about going?


Not to tell somebody how to run their life, but I have other questions.
Do you need a lifted truck? Almost all my life I have had automotive toys. But if at any time I had a family, and could only have 1 vehicle I would want something more practical.
When single, a garage full of motorcycles was normal

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