Thermoguy wrote:

I guess Rivian beat them to the street. Rivian Amazon vans have already started deliveries in the Seattle area. Not that these are the same size, but for electric delivery vehicles, it looks like Rivian was first to make deliveries.

Pbutler97 wrote:

"its cargo carrying capacity compared to a diesel semi remains unknown to the public."

That's grrrrrreat!

Reisender wrote:



Yah good points. As well charging to 70 percent is 30 minutes and that last 30 percent wouldn’t take more than another 45 minutes. My guess is fleet operators will employ them where it makes sense.

As well not all loads will be at max which will extend range. A load of Doritos will weigh a lot less than a load of concrete curbs. As well not all routes have grades like the grapevine that the test trucks did.

We actually see this in real world with our smaller more aerodynamic trailer being towed by our tesla. (Picture below). Ford lightnings are struggling to get 120 kilometers of range pulling bigger heavier boxy travel trailers. We can tow double that range with an SUV that has a 30 percent smaller battery. I’m not knowledgeable about these things but I would assume that some of this physics carry’s thru to the big boys.

Jmho. Definitely not an expert.

Reisender wrote:



Yah good points. As well charging to 70 percent is 30 minutes and that last 30 percent wouldn’t take more than another 45 minutes. My guess is fleet operators will employ them where it makes sense.

As well not all loads will be at max which will extend range. A load of Doritos will weigh a lot less than a load of concrete curbs. As well not all routes have grades like the grapevine that the test trucks did.

Huntindog wrote:


I don't think Pepsi delivers much concrete. They do own Frito Lay, but at least in my area, they all run on CNG, which is pretty clean. The Pepsi trucks are Diesel and they all leave the plant with full loads.
Be interesting to see just how they use them.

NamMedevac 70 wrote:

the EV semi tractor trailer truck rig weighs 81,000lbs. What will this do to our nation's highways and roads??? If anyone cares. Also according to financial news RIVIAN is doing very poorly financially and may be on last legs?????

JRscooby wrote:



LOL, before I retired I would whole lot more want to feed my Cat dragging a skateboard grossed out with the concrete curbs than a van cubed out with Doritos in most of the country.

I would sometimes "Power only" overflow loads for Buster Brown. Once I was waiting when a company driver dropped the trailer I was dispatched for return. The driver warned me it was heavy. I had 5th wheel set for 12-34 for max load. When hooked up my pressure gauge said I had less than 30 on drives, so have no idea what they would call light.

BTW, fuel stop was always over half hour off average speed.




PepsiCo also owns some fast food chains, so stocking them could be another job. I bet most of the trucks around here a probably loaded to gross for what they are. But the trailers are custom built to stack cases low enough to reach standing on the ground, and pick case withot reaching past others. 10 wheeled tractor/semi trailer likely maxed out at 52,000 if not leaving the commercial zone.

I have not paid much attention to what they are feeding the trucks. Be interesting to run numbers NG to E. Big roofs on warehouse. Could solar shade the roof? Charge batteries daytime, the battery charge trucks at night?

NamMedevac 70 wrote:

the EV semi tractor trailer truck rig weighs 81,000lbs. What will this do to our nation's highways and roads??? If anyone cares. Also according to financial news RIVIAN is doing very poorly financially and may be on last legs?????