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Grit dog
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StirCrazy wrote:are we talking about the original three campers still, wow this thread got derailed by the weight police... I have 4000 lbs of payload available (measured at a scale) and I would have no issue with any one of thoes campers. since they will all be under the OP's payload of 4400 I don't see why this went 4 pages... and how it went from everyone saying ya to the differences about SRW and DRW, maybe this thread should be moved into the tow vehicles section...
There aren't really any actual campers in play. OP was using examples of what he saw locally that might fit the bill.
Nothing got de-railed, unlike usual. Just the typical bantering about sticker followers vs real world capabilities.
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BeMurda wrote:Update: after much discussion, my wife vetoed dually after I brought one home and parked it on our driveway. Now I am looking at SRW long vs short box. I know long box has bigger gas tank and more camper options, but some campers in the lower weight ranges are built specifically for short box. I lean long box but I need to think further and decide.
Well, that will dishearten the members who don't believe in multiple considerations at play when choosing a vehicle...lol.
FWIW, there are plenty of shortbed capable full featured hard side "larger" campers. 2 of the 3 you mentioned in the first post are designed to be used on short beds.
That's the next stage of considerations. LB vs SB + and -.
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BeMurda
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Grit dog wrote:BeMurda wrote:Update: after much discussion, my wife vetoed dually after I brought one home and parked it on our driveway. Now I am looking at SRW long vs short box. I know long box has bigger gas tank and more camper options, but some campers in the lower weight ranges are built specifically for short box. I lean long box but I need to think further and decide.
Well, that will dishearten the members who don't believe in multiple considerations at play when choosing a vehicle...lol.
FWIW, there are plenty of shortbed capable full featured hard side "larger" campers. 2 of the 3 you mentioned in the first post are designed to be used on short beds.
That's the next stage of considerations. LB vs SB + and -.
It looks like max Cargo weight per Ford's page will be about 3600lbs vs 3900lbs (I subtracted 100lbs from each for Lariat options) for short box vs long box. The extra cargo capacity of the long box maybe should just point me in that direction. But the short box would be nicer day to day. Either way we won't drive it around town unless we have no choice since only one of us commutes and we have a 2023 Honda Odyssey for that.
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You gotta admit though, while driving that dually (you dont say which) you felt like you could haul just about anything.....
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Grit dog
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BeMurda wrote:
It looks like max Cargo weight per Ford's page will be about 3600lbs vs 3900lbs (I subtracted 100lbs from each for Lariat options) for short box vs long box. The extra cargo capacity of the long box maybe should just point me in that direction. But the short box would be nicer day to day. Either way we won't drive it around town unless we have no choice since only one of us commutes and we have a 2023 Honda Odyssey for that.
That's just the funny math with respect to GVWR. Real world, 2 identical trucks, 1 SB 1 LB have the same everything excpet a longer or shorter frame and different fuel capacity options.
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mellow wrote:You gotta admit though, while driving that dually (you dont say which) you felt like you could haul just about anything.....
Actually I spun out on the turn out of the dealership because 2wd was on and it is snowy here and the truck was on A/T tires. Lol.
4wd helped but it didn't feel as planted as my sedan with winter tires, naturally.
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If you want, I could have my wife call yours and have her relate the story of what happened when our rear tire blew out on our SRW with the camper on the back. Either A. she will want the DRW or B. she will not want a TC.
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Grit dog wrote:@terrybk, I don’t believe steel wheels (speaking OE vs OE) are rated any higher or stronger than aluminum wheels. Nor do I have a reason to believe that they are weaker.
Fwiw, the 1000s of work trucks I’ve been around for the last 35 years that get the absolute snot beat out of them traditionally were steel wheels as they’re usually base model trucks. Never seen a rim failure yet.
GM said the ratings weren’t high enough on the aluminum wheels they were putting on the 2500 in 2005. Maybe that guy was wrong. According to my docs, aluminum wheels weren’t offered in 2005 on the 3500.
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Grit dog wrote:unforeseen wrote:Update: after much discussion, my wife vetoed dually after I brought one home and parked it on our driveway. Now I am looking at SRW long vs short box. I know long box has bigger gas tank and more camper options, but some campers in the lower weight ranges are built specifically for short box. I lean long box but I need to think further and decide.
Well, that will dishearten the members who don't believe in multiple considerations at play when choosing a vehicle...lol.
FWIW, there are plenty of shortbed capable full featured hard side "larger" campers. 2 of the 3 you mentioned in the first post are designed to be used on short beds.
That's the next stage of considerations. LB vs SB + and -.
In the roughly 2 years I've been on rv.net it's been pounded in that 3/4 and 1T are about equally capable (a distinction w/out a difference) and 1T SRW is almost as capable as DRW wrt payload. Message received.
Real world includes anticipating the next step or stage, even if unforeseen at the moment. OP, like every one of us, gets into an RV and finds out their real wants and needs. My rec was based on weights, and I'm not ignoring the fact that SRW is capable of hauling a heavy TC, but OP doesn't need the truck to be a daily driver, apparently lives in the middle of nowhere, apparently doesn't have any experience w heavily laden pu's, and is likely to decide he needs a fifth wheel, when they have more kids, wife doesn't like the TC, etc, etc. Having a DRW now eliminates the possibility of having to get another truck forever. BUT the wife controls 1/2 the money and 100% of something else, therefore she must be obeyed. LOL
OP should have parked the DRW off the driveway so her eyes had time to adjust before having that "monster" DWR right in her face.
Now all that said I'd rather have the long wheel base, especially if there is no slide(s).
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Fwiw, my wife didn't want a DRW. She didn't like the looks of one which I agree. It would only have worked for me if I had two vehicles since I couldn't daily drive a DRW where I worked. She also drives the TC. After driving the SRW with TC "once", she said she'd prefer I drive.
However, with the F450 DRW, she takes the TC on multi-hour road trips to swim meets with daughter and her girls. It took one panic stop due to a dumb driver, to take her admiration of the F450 to the next level. Obviously, it's more stable which she noticed immediately even as a passenger.
She also appreciates not really having limits on how many things to bring with us. I explained what we were trading off with a SRW. We had it 8 1/2 years that way. It is doable as long as you realize you need to bring less and not max out water, etc.
Just make sure your wife understands the tradeoffs.
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