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Posted: 12/12/22 10:50am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

To each their own and there's lots of good advice on here. I drove (not daily, but regularly) an F550 dually dump truck for a few years until I converted it into a dedicated plow truck. My take-aways: 1) If you have the luxury of waiting out the massive snow dumps that happen rarely, stick with your current tires and get some chains; 2) If you're primary use of the truck in the winter is a grocery-getter, as hinted at, maybe a Subaru is a good 2nd vehicle; alternatively (assuming OP's truck is 4WD), get a set of bad-a** aggressive chains for the front tires....that's where your weight is (if not towing) and you'll only need to chain up for the few times that you'll face the combo of "have to go" and "bad roads"; 3) FWIW, having driven multiple duallies since 1974, there's lots of good mud/highway/AT/Snow (even a few good combo) tires out there, but tires are not going to offset the decided tendency of a dually to act like a cow on ice when the roads are slippery.


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To each their own and there's lots of good advice on here. I drove (not daily, but regularly) an F550 dually dump truck for a few years until I converted it into a dedicated plow truck. My take-aways: 1) If you have the luxury of waiting out the massive snow dumps that happen rarely, stick with your current tires and get some chains; 2) If you're primary use of the truck in the winter is a grocery-getter, as hinted at, maybe a Subaru is a good 2nd vehicle; alternatively (assuming OP's truck is 4WD), get a set of bad-a** aggressive chains for the front tires....that's where your weight is (if not towing) and you'll only need to chain up for the few times that you'll face the combo of "have to go" and "bad roads"; 3) FWIW, having driven multiple duallies since 1974, there's lots of good mud/highway/AT/Snow (even a few good combo) tires out there, but tires are not going to offset the decided tendency of a dually to act like a cow on ice when the roads are slippery.


Thanks for the feedback. We are needing new tires so this is a good opportunity to get something with a little more grab. We aren’t towing as much as we use to so <1000 miles per year seems about right. If we store the RV locally we will come in around 100 miles per year towing. We do have the luxury to wait out bad road conditions and will do so absolutely. The exception would be emergencies of course. I’ve had a chance to read up on the following:

Falken Wildpeak AT3W
Goodyear Duratrac
BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2

With a couple more still to research. I’m actually liking the Falken At3w. They look to be a good enough highway tire that also does well in snow and wouldn’t peel away when towing. The ko2s seem to have great fan fair but I don’t see a lot around towing heavy loads. The duratracs look like a great all around snow / dirt tire but appear to be not the greatest highway tire. It’s like being a kid in a … tire store.

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Posted: 12/12/22 01:52pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I had both the Goodyear Duratrac and the BFG's on prior vehicles. Being a fussy and paranoid sort of winter guy (I always switch to studded tires on my primary winter vehicle), I never put enough miles on either brand to speak to their longevity, but I had no complaints while I did use them.
My buddy down the road has some variant of Falken (I think the AT3W, but not sure) on his F350 and has never mentioned any issues...of course, FWIW, I did have to pull him out of a ditch once....along with a few others as I had fully armor clad (chain mail [emoticon] ) tires all'round on my F250.

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The BFG's are a great tire but they don't wear for $hit, at least in heavier applications. That was the first tire I put on after getting rid of the stock Firestones on my Ram. I think the Falken Wildpeaks perform at least was well on slick surfaces as the KO2 but they also wear a lot better. I'd give the Falken's a serious look. When my current ones wear out I'll buy another set.


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The BFG's are a great tire but they don't wear for $hit, at least in heavier applications. That was the first tire I put on after getting rid of the stock Firestones on my Ram. I think the Falken Wildpeaks perform at least was well on slick surfaces as the KO2 but they also wear a lot better. I'd give the Falken's a serious look. When my current ones wear out I'll buy another set.



Falken's will be my next tire on my Ram if the Cooper AT3 XLT's do not perform as well as I think they will. Heard goos things about the Falken Wildpeaks . The only reason I went with Coopers they were a bit cheaper ,and had a rebate . The last set I had were the Toyo AT2's ,and they were disappointing . I anticipate these Coopers doing better , time will tell .They are for sure right out of the gate a better handling ,and riding tire than the Toyo's . I am ranking those Toyo's as terrible as the couple sets off Michelin I have had .

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30k on these US Made NITTO RidgeGrapplers. Very happy with them. I pull 7.500# boat and trailer out of the water rarely using 4wd.

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The Ridgegrapplers are a popular tire here. Mostly on the lifted pickups and Jeeps crowd. I have talked to numerous people that run them. Most like them, the biggest issue is price and wear rate. I ran the EXO Grappler for several years. Excellent heavy duty tire (also expensive). I had to sipe them at 50% due to losing all factory siping and they got squirrelly on ice. That first 50% is truly impressive.


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Posted: 12/14/22 07:25pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Top line Goodyear always gets my nod. Duratrac or Wrangler All Terrain.


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Top line Goodyear always gets my nod. Duratrac or Wrangler All Terrain.


How many sets of Duratracs have you run?


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Ridge graps, great tire in most conditions except snow. And not the best in rain but decent.
New, they’re ok. Siped they’re better but siped and heavy axle loads reduces treadlife quicker than not.
The more transverse tread pattern is not great for water evacuation and not snowflake rated (for a reason).
Ridge graps, Toyo RTs and similar tread designs are not preferable in the snow.
Terra Graps are better snow tires even not siped.

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