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Posted: 12/14/22 07:41pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

ford truck guy wrote:

it looks like a long bed


Ditto.

I think the only short bed dually RAM makes is a Mega cab, which the above truck isn't.


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Posted: 12/14/22 08:42pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Looks like the frame broke in same place as frame mounted tie down connects. If frame was modified for tie downs, you may have an answer.


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Not a short bed and wth is a tope?
It broke. Either defective or the owner got too western with almost 3 tons in the bed down there in Baja. Just because the name says it, shouldn’t drive like a trophy truck…
But the supposition should be strong in this thread. Already on a roll….


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Posted: 12/14/22 11:32pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Ram doesn’t make a DRW short bed in a crew cab. And the minimum payload in a DRW in 2020 was over 6800 pounds. I’d like to hear more about what happened leading up to the failure.


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Posted: 12/15/22 01:07am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I've seen this photo in a few places but no follow up.

I'm betting if we saw the frame, it might be readily obvious what happened.

Of course as others have suggested, might have been user error:
- At 4900lb dry weight, it wouldn't be hard to exceed the ratings if he has full tanks and a lot of stuff.
- Did the owner weld or drill the frame to attach the tie downs?
- How is the weight distribution? There is a lot of camper hanging off the back of the truck bed. The payload sticker assumes a reasonable distribution of weight. What were the per axle loads?
- Did he hit a tope, big pothole or something else at speed?

It's possible there was a defect but it would be interesting to see some follow up with pics of the frame.


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@Time2Roll The interweb says that a tope is excessive alcohol consumption. What did you mean to type?
If the truck wasn't bought new I'd say it's a salt water flood victim.


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Posted: 12/15/22 05:32am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

bucky wrote:

@Time2Roll The interweb says that a tope is excessive alcohol consumption. What did you mean to type?
If the truck wasn't bought new I'd say it's a salt water flood victim.


Speed bumps in Mexico are called Topes.

The difference is they are 2-3 times higher and extremely abrupt compared to speed bumps in the USA.

Hit one at 60mph and expect damage.

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Bionic Man wrote:

Ram doesn’t make a DRW short bed in a crew cab. And the minimum payload in a DRW in 2020 was over 6800 pounds. I’d like to hear more about what happened leading up to the failure.


Do you mean maximum? To get 6,800# payload would need to gas tradesman. My 2016 3500 DRW Laramie has a payload 5,411#.


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Looking at it from a physics standpoint. With a lot of rear overhang and a lot of front overhang, simply driving down the highway will cause a "rocking" front to rear of that weight, centered over the rear axle. That would cause the frame to bend slightly up and down in the middle with every "rock". But even slightly over a period of years will cause metal fatigue, and eventual weakness. And enough and it will finally break.

That is not the first picture posted of trucks with large campers breaking in half like that. Would be interesting to know how many miles it had on it lugging that camper around.

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Posted: 12/15/22 07:51am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

rhagfo wrote:

Bionic Man wrote:

Ram doesn’t make a DRW short bed in a crew cab. And the minimum payload in a DRW in 2020 was over 6800 pounds. I’d like to hear more about what happened leading up to the failure.


Do you mean maximum? To get 6,800# payload would need to gas tradesman. My 2016 3500 DRW Laramie has a payload 5,411#.


The chart I found in a quick search did in fact limit the trim to Tradesman (although the gas has a higher payload, the CTD Aisin is what I quoted). I can’t find anything for higher trim levels, but regardless, the photo above wouldn’t be caused by just the load of the camper (regardless of brand of modern DRW truck was under it.

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