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bikendan
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Shadow57 wrote:Wow I guess I have been guilty of most of these things everyone complains about. Thank goodness we travel with a pretty big group. We go to many state parks that have horse facilities and if you encounter our group you are going to be very unhappy. We have lots of music and sometimes a PA, we have never had anyone complain most just usually join in. Let me explain why sometimes those lights are on, try carrying food between campsites or cleaning up the mess. You all fuss about not picking up after dogs, but how can you pick it up if you can't see it, plus I worry about snakes and alligators. If I had a $ for every time I tripped over a fire ring I would be rich. I turn them off when I go to bed. You all would have loved the first time I put a movie in the DVD and didn't realize I was blasting the campground via outside speakers. Thank goodness the dog had to go out. I will pay attention to my outside lights when not camping with my friends.
We have met some of the nicest and strangest people camping. One lady was very offended when my husband offered to get her fire started with a torch. We realized she was a true naturalist when she pitched her tent in the middle of poison ivy. Lots of poison ivy.
You know that using a headlamp, will solve your light problems without turning on a bunch of lights. We always use our headlamps when it gets dark, so we don't impact our campground neighbors.
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cummins2014
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Boon Docker wrote:"......most likely like some on here you will be annoyed , yes get over it."
Unfortunately, that is the attitude of many people with noisy dogs.
No ,not my attitude its just a fact ,they will let out a bark or two at times before being told to stop . I agree dogs left alone in an Rv to bark is annoying . I am not one of those owners , but I will repeat to make a point ,get over it if you hear a bark or two at times .
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Boon Docker
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Nothing wrong with a bark or two at times.
It is the constant bark that is dam annoying.
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toedtoes
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@Thermoguy - you're right, you can't stop a dog from barking. It's a natural behavior for them.
However, there are two things you CAN do:
1. For most people, the annoyance is more about the appearance of a lack of concern for others than the actual barking. If you, as the dog owner, simply make the attempt to stop the barking, most people will be fine. When you just ignore it while the dog barks all day long nonstop, THEN people get upset.
My Bat-dog had people fear. Because of that, she tended to bark at passerby from a greater distance than most dogs. It was her way of telling the passerby to keep their distance. One time, as a man passed our campsite, she started barking at him. I talked to her and told her he was just walking past and she had warned him to stay away*. The man laughed and said "you know her barking bothers you more than it bothers anyone else".
That's how it should be. The OWNER should be more bothered than others by their dog's barking. If everyone around you is giving you the stink eye because your dog is barking, then YOU are the problem. Make the effort to quiet your dog*, and they will stop being annoyed. If you have a young dog who still barks at everything real or imagined, just let your fellow campers know that she is still learning camping ettiquete - they will be much more understanding. This works when you have kids too - your kids' behaviors should bother you more than they bother everyone else.
There will always be the person who gets upset over a single bark - nothing anyone does will appease them. Your goal as a dog owner isn't to make them happy. Your goal is to show the rest of your fellow campers that you understand a barking dog can be annoying and you are trying to limit your dog's barking.
*2. Dogs bark to say something. They keep barking because no one is listening to them. You can't stop a dog from barking at all, but you can reduce the amount of barking by following this simple rule:
When the dog barks, listen to him.
If they are barking because they heard or saw something, first acknowledge their warning. Tell the dog, "oh, I see that person walking by too". Then tell the dog they did good for warning you, but that the danger is gone, "what a good dog to tell me, but that man is just going by so it's OK". THEN redirect the dog to a toy and praise the dog for redirecting.
What happens when you do this is the dog gets heard, given the "all clear" signal, and then rewarded.
If your dog is barking to come in or go out or because he's bored, LISTEN to him. If a human wants inside, they knock on the door. We don't punish them for knocking. So why punish a dog for asking to come inside? Instead, let them in when they are ready. Sure if you're in the middle of something, you can tell the dog "just a minute" - but if you actually acknowledge the dog's request, he will bark less.
My Tornado-dog is mostly russell terrier. At an early age, he showed all the barking frenzy of a russell terrier. I started doing the above. He still barks, but it is not the nonstop psychotic barking that so many russell terriers do.
At 2 years old, when he wants in, he will bark once. I acknowledge his request. Sometimes I say "did you poop?" and he will run off into the yard for a bit longer. Sometimes, I say "just a minute" and he will wait at the door. Sometimes, I let him in immediately. But the one constant is that he knows I heard him and am not ignoring him. So he doesn't bark and bark and bark and bark while I pretend he doesn't exist.
Likewise, if he hears something and barks, he will then turn to me for acknowledgment and my threat assessment. He doesn't need to bark for hours because I listen to him.
So many people want a dog as a guard dog, but then ignore the dog's warnings. That frustrates the dog and just makes her bark more and more and more.
Acknowledge the dog's warning, assess the threat, then redirect and reward. Your dog will bark when she hears/sees something, but won't go on and on and on.
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shelbyfv
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Be nice if some folks who need a dog with them all the time could be encouraged to switch to a teddy bear, weighted blanket or Xanax. Would be cheaper as well.
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Our peeve is also trash in the fire pit. Only to be topped by cigarette butts all over the campsite. If you must throw your butts down, at least throw them into the fire ring.
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garmp wrote:Our peeve is also trash in the fire pit. Only to be topped by cigarette butts all over the campsite. If you must throw your butts down, at least throw them into the fire ring.
Not limited to CGs on the butts. I have suggested to city council that cameras be installed at all traffic light. Use for deciding who is at fault in wreck, paid for by people that think we want to live in their ashtray
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Quick story. Back in 2000, We camped at a local state park on a major reservoir on big river. We had a nice campsite across a small inlet from another site with a couple with a baby and dog. We could hear the dog bark and the baby cry. They kept a fire in the fire pit the entire time they were there. When the breeze got up the smoke blew directly into our site. Aggravating, but we were nice about it. Nothing we could do anyway. They packed up and left early one morning as their time expired that day. The smoke and odor continued. I walked around the inlet to see what was going on. The pit was full of cans and trash, and I believe every nasty crappy diaper the baby had used their entire stay there. Not burning, just smoldering and smoking and stinking. I ended up with my water hose with steamy stinking smoke still blowing toward us. It finally went out, but I did not envy the hosts that had to clean the pit.
I have wondered if I did wrong or should have let burn everything that would have. I guess I would do it again or maybe found another site
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toedtoes
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shelbyfv wrote:Be nice if some folks who need a dog with them all the time could be encouraged to switch to a teddy bear, weighted blanket or Xanax. Would be cheaper as well.
Or maybe those who can't stand the sight of a dog could stick to parks/campgrounds that don't allow dogs.
Seriously, I don't "need" my dogs with me. But I enjoy camping with them and they enjoy camping. I go where they are welcome. I pick up after them. I don't leave them unattended and barking. I don't walk them to your site to go poop. And they are always on a leash. If my bringing them upsets all my neighbors, then I need to rethink. If my bringing them upsets just you, then you need to rethink.
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Shadow57
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toedtoes wrote:shelbyfv wrote:Be nice if some folks who need a dog with them all the time could be encouraged to switch to a teddy bear, weighted blanket or Xanax. Would be cheaper as well.
Or maybe those who can't stand the sight of a dog could stick to parks/campgrounds that don't allow dogs.
Seriously, I don't "need" my dogs with me. But I enjoy camping with them and they enjoy camping. I go where they are welcome. I pick up after them. I don't leave them unattended and barking. I don't walk them to your site to go poop. And they are always on a leash. If my bringing them upsets all my neighbors, then I need to rethink. If my bringing them upsets just you, then you need to rethink.
I agree with you. To the person who thinks dog people should get a teddy bear or Xanex. It's honestly why we have a motor home, plus I find hotels creepy. I feel the same way about how some people contain their children. I travel with horses and a couple of little dogs. I don't bring them for your kids to pet. Which honestly sometimes I don't mind, if they are good kids. The little monsters that scream and run wild all the time I can do without. So happy we usually camp in a big group.
ETA: I'm not a kid hater by any means, I find them very entertaining. However when you dump your kids on our campsite to feed while you go play I get very upset. When there is an all adult group we sure don't want your kids just because we have food and music. We usually don't mind if the parents are with them, but have had kid dumpers a lot. Just because we look like and are grandparents...... we don't want to babysit kids. If we do we bring our own. Not people in our group just camping kids who wander up and won't leave and parents don't come get.
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