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" unless in a class A and have an air leak and waiting for the chambers to fill "

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I asked this a few years back. Some replies slammed me, but there was more support.
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We were on the road for the last 3.5 weeks. It takes us approx 30min. to break camp in the morning. We then start the truck and position, hook up, do a final walk around and leave. Truck idles for maybe five minutes and is Tundra V-8 quiet.

So why in 3.5 weeks did we run into so many diesel class A's who feel the need to start the engine at 6AM and then do God only knows what for the next hour and a half before they leave? You bought a $400K, 400HP, 40 foot RV. Does it really require a 90 minute warm up before you can safely drive it down the road? We only spent one night together, but I promise to miss you when you're gone. Do you need to wake up the entire park to wave goodbye?

Before you tell me I'm just jealous that I don't have a diesel pusher, I'm not. (Well maybe just a little bit). Saw one today that was such a bargain my wallet started to twitch, but I digress.

If there is a reason for the 90 min. warm-up, please explain it to this dumb 5th wheeler.

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There is only one reason - stupidity. [emoticon]

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Old myths. Modern diesels only need to warm up 3 or 4 minutes and aren't problematic to start. Things were different waaay back. On the other hand, that big throbbing engine may make them feel so frisky they need another few minutes to get on the road.

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Old myths. Modern diesels only need to warm up 3 or 4 minutes and aren't problematic to start. Things were different waaay back. On the other hand, that big throbbing engine may make them feel so frisky they need another few minutes to get on the road.


They would have to be OTR truckers, used to being "frisky" while that diesel is hammering away, beside the truck stop cafe. This could just be an "old myth" too??

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There is only one reason - stupidity. [emoticon]


That's the short answer. Where the need to wake everyone is I don't know.

By the time you start it, let it air up, move to hook up the toad, the engine will be near right up to temp & ready to have any demand thrown at it.

How many of these diesel owners who think that they are being so careful with their engines, take the time to open up & check all of the fluid levels plus hoses for possible developing leaks, before they start up?

The answer? Very few of them.


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Boon Docker wrote:

There is only one reason - stupidity. [emoticon]


That's the short answer. Where the need to wake everyone is I don't know.

By the time you start it, let it air up, move to hook up the toad, the engine will be near right up to temp & ready to have any demand thrown at it.

How many of these diesel owners who think that they are being so careful with their engines, take the time to open up & check all of the fluid levels plus hoses for possible developing leaks, before they start up?

The answer? Very few of them.


Depending on outside temp, the engine will warm up faster, with least wear under light throttle. If you need to build air, you have waited long enough. For my working truck, once the oil pressure was normal, walk around vehicle checking lights and thumping tires, ready to roll across the truckstop.
I don't think any CG is located where would need to be over 1/4 throttle for long enough to be warmed up enough to hit highway.

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While I have 3 dogs, only one is a "camper"; the other 2 stay at home when we go camping. All 3 (chihuahua, Lab/Newfoundland mix, Corgi) are determined to save us from the horrors of the Amazon deliveries. I've been told that it is because they toss packages into the yard; "their" territory, which makes sense.

My "camping" dog is the Cardigan Welsh Corgi who is a rescue of sorts; spent the first 9 months of his life in a dark room in a 3'x4' crate, very seldom being let out or even interacted with, other than to get beat if he somehow got out of the crate. Needless to say, he has some "issues" if you attempt to discipline him. But just yelling at him usually does the trick, although he is very vocal about his displeasure at being yelled at, and has to get the last word in, mumbling/growling under his breath.

On the other hand, he absolutely loves camping, does not bark at other campers or even other dogs. The only downside is that he is convinced that every other camper in the campground WANTS to meet him and pet him and love him!!!


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4x4van wrote:

While I have 3 dogs, only one is a "camper"; the other 2 stay at home when we go camping. All 3 (chihuahua, Lab/Newfoundland mix, Corgi) are determined to save us from the horrors of the Amazon deliveries. I've been told that it is because they toss packages into the yard; "their" territory, which makes sense.

My "camping" dog is the Cardigan Welsh Corgi who is a rescue of sorts; spent the first 9 months of his life in a dark room in a 3'x4' crate, very seldom being let out or even interacted with, other than to get beat if he somehow got out of the crate. Needless to say, he has some "issues" if you attempt to discipline him. But just yelling at him usually does the trick, although he is very vocal about his displeasure at being yelled at, and has to get the last word in, mumbling/growling under his breath.

On the other hand, he absolutely loves camping, does not bark at other campers or even other dogs. The only downside is that he is convinced that every other camper in the campground WANTS to meet him and pet him and love him!!!


My wife and I would do just that. We also have 3 dogs they go with us. A Papillion and a Havanese a Papillion chihuahua mix. The Havanese and the mixed are rescuse.





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