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fj12ryder
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My thought is that the goalposts will simply be moved.
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fj12ryder wrote:My thought is that the goalposts will simply be moved. This
It's an initiative to spawn new technologies and improve existing.
Nothing is cast in stone.
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fj12ryder wrote:My thought is that the goalposts will simply be moved. X2 EVs will increase and are great for shorter travel and that distance will increase along with reduced charging time.
Our society is totally dependent on ICEs for so much like airplanes, trucks, trains, etc for transportation of people and goods. How/when will reasonable alternatives evolve? There is no viable short term alternative but that could change in the future.
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There is no viable alternative to ICE NOW
OTOH, in the not to distant past there was no viable alternative to animal power. (In my early teens I plowed the garden with a mule. I learned to love that John Deere A next day in the field) But then Hank put the T on the market.
Quote:Our society is totally dependent on ICEs for so much like airplanes, trucks, trains, etc for transportation of people and goods
The public health issue of the last few years has convinced many companies there is no longer a need to transport many workers to a office. Maybe our society can learn to produce more of what is needed near where it is needed? And go back to more rail, powered like subway, to move more goods and people?
Quote:Or will the average middle class joe have to go back to tent camping?
I see another, harder to fix problem for the "average middle class joe" with regards to camping. That is for a family to stay in middle class, afford to even tent camp, there often needs to be 2 or more full time jobs. And sometimes the only way to generate that income is several part-time jobs. Now how do you manage to get time off all the jobs at same time?
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I wonder what people thought when the first gas-engine automobile came off the assembly line? They may have said the same thing comparing weight, fuel cost, and maintenance versus the price of a horse and a bail of hay. That may sound silly today but not then.
Maybe trailers and fifth wheels should become smaller and lighter. I'd like to see the statistics of a Tesla pulling a folding hard-sided trailer such as a Chalet, Aliner, or Trailmanor.
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JRscooby wrote:There is no viable alternative to ICE NOW If you're talking about pulling a 5th wheel, no. If you're talking about a short daily commute and you can charge at home, they're perfect.
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EVs have improved greatly over the years. And will continue so with new technological advances. So, yes, sometime in the not too distant future ICE engines, for the most part, will become dinosaurs. Maybe not in time for us older RVers, but certainly for you younger ones.
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It is coming, eventually. I am in this industry, and I think it is important to understand that there is essentially ZERO development dollars going into ICE engines. The big three are pouring all powertrain development money into BEVs (including 3/4 and 1 tons), and many MD and HD applications (buses, regional, etc.) are moving to EV quickly where range and predictability allow it. Heck, heavy equipment manufacturers are working on it too (1000V+). HFCV (hydrogen fuel cell vehicles) are the answer to bridge the gap while battery tech catches up for long haul and other very heavy applications. Or maybe not - HFCV could be the answer. Time will tell.
I am not saying everything will be there tomorrow, or ICE will disappear (it won't), but 2050 will look a lot different than 2030. Many problems need to be solved - infrastructure, materials, power generations sources - but this is nothing new.
By the way, who is still using a 110 VAC drill?
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SuperBus wrote:By the way, who is still using a 110 VAC drill? Really. All my yard tools are battery.. leaf blower, lawn mower (110v battery!), hedge trimmer. I would never buy another gas powered tool.
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JRscooby wrote:
The public health issue of the last few years has convinced many companies there is no longer a need to transport many workers to a office.
If only that were true. There has been a massive shift in the past 6 months that companies are demanding workers go back into the office - for no really good reason. It's been proven for 2 years that work can be done remotely, while saving on fuel which drove prices down. Not to mention the other savings like electricity, day care, food, etc etc. Yet for some reason companies feel the need for you to buy gas to come in to the office. Most have made it mandatory and if you don't comply you lose your job.
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