Cummins12V98
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BarneyS wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:Great post, too bad it will be closed soon!
Nah. I fixed the original post so it would not have to be closed. I think this is a legitimate question that needs to be discussed.
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Good MAN, thank you!!! Some common sense!
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2oldman
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Now move it to tech issues and fix the title.
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Thermoguy
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relaxin wrote:So most governments have set a time line when the end of the internal combustion engine Must occur, (Moderator comment: Political comments removed).
So then what?
Does anyone honestly think there will be an affordable Electric truck that can pull 10 to 15 thousand pound for 250 or more miles on a single charge?
Will we have to outfit our trailers with batteries to provide a boost for the truck doing the pulling? Or will the average middle class joe have to go back to tent camping?
Will there be aux battery packs that we can drop into the truck bed and tie down and plug in for extra mileage, and then take back out so we are not toting around the unnecessary weight when not towing
What's your thoughts on the future changes coming?
The part that everyone misses is that this is changing daily and rapidly. Transportation agencies are working on projects like electrified roads that charge as you drive, EV and Freight only roads and lanes, and of course more charging stations. Car and battery companies are working on new technology - like Sodium Ion, basically, salt, it is very promising and should be available soon, or super conductors with graphene, not Lithium, Tesla just purchased a company that makes these types of batteries or battery alternatives. These materials are recyclable and don't require the same mining techniques used with Lithium.
The other part is that EV is not the only engine type to remove the ICE, what about Hydrogen Fuel Cells? BMW, Toyota and others are betting on a future that is not EV but rather a different engine all together. You can by a BMW now, but have very few options where to "fuel" up. But imagine a Hydrogen generator at your house fueling your car... this is not a pipe dream but available now, just not well known.
The real issue and why we haven't seen a large adoption is cost. Costs to manufacture are coming down daily. These new battery materials cost less and will therefore allow the cars to cost less. Also, the dreaded replacement of the battery will cost less. Material like Sodium Ion are much cheaper to manufacturer and could be 1/3 to 1/2 less the cost of Li-Ion.
Since this is an RV thread, think about boondocking. How has battery technology and charging changed in the last couple years. Imagine how it will change in the next 10-20? An EV is just a RV boondocking... How far can you go on a charge? How can you extend that range or reduce battery dependency or battery demand? Finally, how do you replenish that battery most efficiently?
Lastly, about that 3/4 ton or 1 ton truck. Yes, they already have prototypes, some really great ones. Even with the current available EV motors, that truck would outhaul your current truck. The only missing link is range, and that's being addressed with new technology. Look at the huge amount of heavy hauling trucks and delivery vehicles that are going EV. These are the testing bed for your RV towing vehicle. It is just around the corner, along with Autonomous vehicles.
If you don't believe me, go to CES in Vegas in January. The new vehicle technology will blow your mind!! I went pre COVID and was in shock at where the vehicle manufacturers and suppliers were at and what they were working on in the near future. That's just what they are willing to show the public.
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Thermoguy wrote:If you don't believe me, go to CES in Vegas in January. The new vehicle technology will blow your mind!! Neat! I'll be there in Jan. Thanks!
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2oldman wrote:Thermoguy wrote:If you don't believe me, go to CES in Vegas in January. The new vehicle technology will blow your mind!! Neat! I'll be there in Jan. Thanks!
Wish I could e there. Dodge will apparently have their electric half ton there.
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Reisender wrote:Wish I could e there. Dodge will apparently have their electric half ton there. I'll report. (but not likely in fifth-wheels)
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2oldman wrote:Reisender wrote:Wish I could e there. Dodge will apparently have their electric half ton there. I'll report. (but not likely in fifth-wheels)
Thanks. Feel free to take pics. ![[emoticon]](http://www.rv.net/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif "smile") .
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Reisender wrote:
If the battery is cold (parked over night or whatever) charging starts out VERY SLOW. We have never been in that situation but have seen some test videos on it. It can double or triple charge time. Generally at the end of the travel day we charge before parking so we don’t have to charge first thing on a cold morning at a supercharger . By the time we have to charge the car and the battery is always warm so charging is normal. Its one of those read the manual and best practices things.
The need for slow charge when cold is not new to EVs. Even starter batteries will not take as much, or put out as much when cold. And if you try to force it, bad things can happen. Twice I have been around where it started raining acid after a bang.
Back in the late '60s, GM trained us to remove caps, look in battery, before hooking up jumper cables. If the battery was discharged enough, and it was cold enough to see ice in the cells don't even try to charge until thaws because of the high probability of explosion.
Good the car/battery knows.
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wrote:
Is lithium better or the same as cobalt and other minerals?
My son is a chemical engineer that is working on an feasibility project at the salton sea to get lithium. We haven’t talked about it lately so I don’t know what they determined
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Thermoguy wrote:If you don't believe me, go to CES in Vegas in January. The new vehicle technology will blow your mind!! According to the website, this is not open to the general public. I'm the general public.
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