Thermoguy
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2oldman wrote:Thermoguy wrote:If you don't believe me, go to CES in Vegas in January. The new vehicle technology will blow your mind!! According to the website, this is not open to the general public. I'm the general public.
I don't know, I went with the company I work for so I got in free. You could say you are a blogger or youtuber then you are not the general public. There are thousands of people there and no one is checking why you are there...
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Jeffery2k
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All 2023 models will have preconditioned batteries. No model from 2022 has battery preconditioning. The hearing system in the 2022 model Battery is different. Different from battery precondition. I read this here.
Battery preconditions via software or hardware were not made explicit by Hyundai. In my opinion, the battery preconditioning feature for 2023 will be a hardware update, while the battery preconditioning for the 2022 model may be a software feature. Although it might not be as effective as the 2023 model, it might still be an improvement.
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Jeffery2k wrote:All 2023 models will have preconditioned batteries. No model from 2022 has battery preconditioning. The hearing system in the 2022 model Battery is different. Different from battery precondition.
Battery preconditions via software or hardware were not made explicit by Hyundai. In my opinion, the battery preconditioning feature for 2023 will be a hardware update, while the battery preconditioning for the 2022 model may be a software feature. Although it might not be as effective as the 2023 model, it might still be an improvement.
Yah. I think Rivian took the same approach and will add some sort of hardware heating device in 2023.
Tesla does both methods all there approach has changed over the years as well.
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enblethen
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There is going to be many changes in the EV vehicles. Changes in the motors and in the batteries between now and if and when ICE engines become obsolete.
There are plans to build battery facilities locally. Talk is that one will be using silicone-based units.
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Yah. They’ll be different chemistries of lithiums as well. Both Ford and Rovian will be offering a non cobalt LFP battery to their line up this year. BYD and Tesla are the worlds biggest EV manufacturers and both now produce over half of their vehicles with zero cobalt. Unclear what the Cybertruck will use for a battery yet although most seem to think it’s the new 4680 cell. Time will tell.
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Bumpyroad
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there's an interesting article in the Jan/Feb issue of meckleneburg electric cooperative living magazine concerning electric vehicles.
they state that new class 8 electric trucks sell for around 300,000 twice the price of the fuel powered counterparts.
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Thermoguy
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enblethen wrote:There is going to be many changes in the EV vehicles. Changes in the motors and in the batteries between now and if and when ICE engines become obsolete.
There are plans to build battery facilities locally. Talk is that one will be using silicone-based units.
They are already manufacturing silicone based batteries in Woodinville WA...
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enblethen
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I believe the Woodinville operation is one of the ones moving to Moses Lake. The other one is coming out of Portland.
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Cptnvideo
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So the current administration wants to do away with fossil fuels.
I guess that means the end of portable generators as we now know them.
What about bulldozers? And when they are working where there is no electricity (assuming they are battery powered), how will they be charged?
And what about airplanes?
And how are we going to make enough electricity to power all the battery chargers if we can't use fossil fuels?
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Cptnvideo wrote:So the current administration wants to do away with fossil fuels.
I guess that means the end of portable generators as we now know them.
What about bulldozers? And when they are working where there is no electricity (assuming they are battery powered), how will they be charged?
And what about airplanes?
And how are we going to make enough electricity to power all the battery chargers if we can't use fossil fuels?
I wanna know how they're going to get a rocket to the moon.
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