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d3500ram
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I read the article as sent to me this morning from another news source. I have not been around for quite some time since selling the TC… but, I knew that this would be a topic here, hence me dropping back in to at least say hi. Good to see some of the regular good folks with sage comments still around here…
Yes, we are all respectfully speculating on this mishap and the comments seem quite logical. I will add this:
He could have been under the max payload number, but if that load (force)is hanging X distance behind the rear axle it could have resulted in a broken frame- nothing too complex to understand, it is the basic physics of levers. If placed far enough away then the uplift force (right at the front tie- downs) and the weight of the diesel up front will react at the weakest point. All of those forces working together will find that weakest point.
3 tons wrote:~…The camper dealer didn’t follow my instructions and used the drill-thru mount… ~3 tons WOW! I would have been rip-feces PO'd in a big way if a dealer did that even within acceptable location range!![[emoticon]](http://www.rv.net/sharedcontent/cfb/images/mad.gif "mad")
Quote:~…the clamp on unit negates any drilling or welding…~ Yep, that is why I went with the bolt-in TL's on mine. Kind of a PIA to install within the HF frame. I have mine still in place... not sure if I can get inside to remove the hardware in order to take them off.
Anyway- hope y'all had a Merry Christmas... and Happy New Year to everyone.
Sold the TC, previous owner of 2 NorthStar pop-ups & 2 Northstar Arrows...still have the truck:
2005 Dodge 3500 SRW, Qcab long bed, NV-6500, diesel, 4WD, Helwig, 9000XL,
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jimh406
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I'd like to know what else was in the camper at the rear of it. I don't think the balance point should be that far back on a normal TC. In other words, even if the frame broke it should sit nearly level. The other wild card is the leverage of the bike on the hitch.
It also almost looks like it's short bed, but that could an optical illusion.
One more thought is I wonder where the holding tanks are and if they were in the rear behind the axle, were they full or nearly full?
'10 Ford F-450, 6.4, 4.30, 4x4, 14,500 GVWR, '06 Host Rainer 950 DS, Torklift Talon tiedowns, Glow Steps, and Fastguns. Bilstein 4600s, Firestone Bags, Toyo M655 Gs, Curt front hitch, Energy Suspension bump stops.
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Grit dog
Black Diamond, WA
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The torklift application for that truck is ZERO drilling required. As are the vast majority of torklift apps. No speculation needed there. Unless the owner had some custom tie down mounts made, the truck frame wasn’t drilled.
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3 tons
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“ I'd like to know what else was in the camper at the rear of it. I don't think the balance point should be that far back on a normal TC.”
Well, the basement alone on the 1165 could easily hold several people and nowadays who knows, after all this all happened south of the border - lol ![[emoticon]](http://www.rv.net/sharedcontent/cfb/images/biggrin.gif "biggrin")
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covered wagon
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I found out that it's a short bed truck with a camper for a long bed. Radically changing the dynamics. Then compound that with the extended hitch and motorbike. Wow what a risk!
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Oregun
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Was there a generator on the rear of the camper too?
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3 tons
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covered wagon wrote:I found out that it's a short bed truck with a camper for a long bed.
Not so, better check your source…
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valhalla360
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jimh406 wrote:I'd like to know what else was in the camper at the rear of it. I don't think the balance point should be that far back on a normal TC. In other words, even if the frame broke it should sit nearly level. The other wild card is the leverage of the bike on the hitch.
It also almost looks like it's short bed, but that could an optical illusion.
One more thought is I wonder where the holding tanks are and if they were in the rear behind the axle, were they full or nearly full?
While the COG might not be too far behind the axle, it most likely is a few feet above the axle. On bumpy roads 6000lb rocking back and forth on a 3ft lever arm, is a lot of force. Add in a small motorcycle 7-8ft behind the axle...
Yeah, it held up for 25k miles but eventually fatigue loading took it's toll. Just because it didn't fail in the first mile doesn't mean it wasn't taking damage the whole time.
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Grit dog
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covered wagon wrote:I found out that it's a short bed truck with a camper for a long bed. Radically changing the dynamics. Then compound that with the extended hitch and motorbike. Wow what a risk!
Lol. Loss of words for this one….
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srschang
Western NY
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covered wagon wrote:I found out that it's a short bed truck with a camper for a long bed. Radically changing the dynamics. Then compound that with the extended hitch and motorbike. Wow what a risk!
Ram only made one configuration with a shortbed and dual wheels in 2020, and it's a Mega Cab. The broken truck is not a Mega Cab.
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