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Literally none of this is an issue.
LaQuinta, you’re 100% trying to find a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.
Assuming you’re not running around punching out tanks on const equipment for free diesel and dumping contaminated fuel into your slip tank, you have ZERO need for a pre filter on the slip tank.
And if you hooked it up for ease of use (gravity w check valve) you couldn’t reasonably or easily put a filter on it.
But if you can’t sleep at night without triple filtering the fuel, frankly in the wrong order, then there are any number of 2mic 4 absolute spin on filters that will go on standard filter bases.
Just buy one.
The ONLY reason I could see this being of benefit is if you ran all your fuel through the slip tank filter first, it would virtually eliminate the need for the expensive Ram filters and you could probably cut your OE filter changes to like 50k miles or more.
But that’s double the work.


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Turtle n Peeps wrote:

As said, the filters on your truck will take care of any particulate matter and other contamination. The only thing I "might" do is get a cheap water block filter in case any water gets in your bed tank.


CAT makes a really good water block filter.

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Ram has the best OEM filtration system out there. You don't need anything else. Change your fuel filters every 15K miles and enjoy your truck.


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FishOnOne wrote:

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

As said, the filters on your truck will take care of any particulate matter and other contamination. The only thing I "might" do is get a cheap water block filter in case any water gets in your bed tank.


CAT makes a really good water block filter.

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Yep, thanks Troy, that's the one I would get. I haven't checked in a long time but CAT filters were reasonably priced.....at least they were.


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If your tank is Metal I would be worried about the extra moisture, I have a 52 gallon aluminum and it forms condensation. I went with a dedicated moisture filter, and will get water out the drain.

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Notwithstanding the valid points on the vehicle's existing system, if you wanted to do a bang-up job of ensuring your fuel is clean and stripped of water prior to it hitting your truck's tank, you'd want to put in place a pressurized feed into a Fleetguard water separator then a Fleetguard fuel filter (or a single three-layer FG Nanonet $$$ - overkill in my opinion since this set-up becomes your primary filtration and your OE set-up is secondary). Alternatively, you can draw fuel through the filters with a downstream pump, but it is not as effective. This set up won't be cheap, and is somewhat repetitive, but it is the answer to your question. The new issue you'll have is knowing when to change your truck filters. The interval will be much longer but how much?

Another thought - some truck fleets have fuel tanks at their terminals. They do employ filters on the tanks, but it is normally a pretty "open" filter meant to catch larger particles and debris. This situation is not analogous to yours, as they have the factor of much, much more volume moving through the filter on the tank, hence it is large in physical size and also in media size (i.e. particle pass through). There are issues that still result in trucks getting towed back to the terminal because of "bad" fuel. Just food for thought.

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Grit dog wrote:

Literally none of this is an issue.
LaQuinta, you’re 100% trying to find a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.
Assuming you’re not running around punching out tanks on const equipment for free diesel and dumping contaminated fuel into your slip tank, you have ZERO need for a pre filter on the slip tank.
And if you hooked it up for ease of use (gravity w check valve) you couldn’t reasonably or easily put a filter on it.
But if you can’t sleep at night without triple filtering the fuel, frankly in the wrong order, then there are any number of 2mic 4 absolute spin on filters that will go on standard filter bases.
Just buy one.
The ONLY reason I could see this being of benefit is if you ran all your fuel through the slip tank filter first, it would virtually eliminate the need for the expensive Ram filters and you could probably cut your OE filter changes to like 50k miles or more.
But that’s double the work.

First of all, thank you for the information. Parts of the equation here which you don't know is that I summer in Washington, and fuel is 50 miles away. With the increase in prices, and Washington going to add another $.50 tax on every gallon starting 1/1, I wanted to put my transfer tank back into service. I live near Idaho border and will get y fuel there thus giving the middle finger to Inslee on the westside. In any case, my 12v transfer pump will do the 15 gpm so gravity not an option or desire. I don't lend myself to the mercy that someone else cleans all my fuel because if that were the case we would be in trouble. If the fuel was so clean at the pump, then why have filters on our trucks at all? I will put a spin on to catch anything that slipped by or that was introduced by the attendant hosing down the station. Sounds prudent to me.


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We fill heavy equipment out of 110 gallon slip tanks. I have water/debris filters on the slip tanks and then the OEM filters on the equipment. Been doing this for almost 30 years. Never an issue with this set up.


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ksss wrote:

We fill heavy equipment out of 110 gallon slip tanks. I have water/debris filters on the slip tanks and then the OEM filters on the equipment. Been doing this for almost 30 years. Never an issue with this set up.


Thank you.

We used a filter/bleeder on the air vent. When I installed a power pump, I would mount a switch near the vent, hoping be more likely to wipe dust away from it before pumping air into tank (Yes, fuel out, but air, maybe dusty air will go in to replace.
Don't open tank any more than need to, and wipe area of cap before you do. Keep nozzle covered, so dirt can't get in, wipe before stick in tank.

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spoon059 wrote:

Ram has the best OEM filtration system out there. You don't need anything else. Change your fuel filters every 15K miles and enjoy your truck.


Just be SURE that are NOT Chinese knock offs!!! Geno's Garage is a great place to buy the filters they sell the real deal.


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