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Agreed, one can doo harm to seals with either device. Well sort of. The biggest issue is getting grease on brakes unless you totally over grease and pack the whole hub plumb full.
That said, it is definitely more than an hour project start to finish. I’m pretty adept at working on my own stuff and even with 2 floor jacks and power tools an hour would literally be pit crew speed.
But I’m not arguing the virtues of a good old fashioned wheel bearing service. Was just making a funny about the comments that always ensue on this topic. Cheers!!


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I must be a one man pit crew then. It takes me just a little over an hour to do my two axle trailer.

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Grit dog wrote:

Agreed, one can doo harm to seals with either device. Well sort of. The biggest issue is getting grease on brakes unless you totally over grease and pack the whole hub plumb full.
Actually for that system to work as designed, one MUST fill the hub plumb full.


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Not in the NE, but the last time I did mine is when I was buying new tires. They did them for $30 each and it took them and extra 5-10 minutes per wheel. I watched them and they showed me how easy it is to do, but probably would have them do it again.

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Huntindog wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

Agreed, one can doo harm to seals with either device. Well sort of. The biggest issue is getting grease on brakes unless you totally over grease and pack the whole hub plumb full.
Actually for that system to work as designed, one MUST fill the hub plumb full.


Plus all the old grease, which may be contaminated, must be pushed out by new grease without mixing.
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Thermoguy wrote:

Not in the NE, but the last time I did mine is when I was buying new tires. They did them for $30 each and it took them and extra 5-10 minutes per wheel. I watched them and they showed me how easy it is to do, but probably would have them do it again.


Did they pull the hub, remove the bearings, clean and inspect for wear, install new wheel seals and pack the bearings and hubs in 10 minutes per wheel? Or did they remove the cap jam grease into the hub then reinstall cap.
I guess that's repacking the hub.. Bearings chip and races chip. No amount of grease will help when the failure comes.Check those bearings folks.

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Some of y’all are funny.
Yes it will take less time if the wheels are already off. But it f you can back off the brakes, jack up one side, remove wheels, remove drums/hubs, remove seal, clean out bearings and hubs completely repack and re assemble, re adjust brakes before dropping the trailer and going to the other side, you are a 1 man NASCAR crew!

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Huntindog wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

Agreed, one can doo harm to seals with either device. Well sort of. The biggest issue is getting grease on brakes unless you totally over grease and pack the whole hub plumb full.
Actually for that system to work as designed, one MUST fill the hub plumb full.

You’re correct in that is what bearing buddy says. And in the past like 30 years ago, I thought that was the right answer. It also lead to grease always blowing past the seals.
I would never recommend someone filling the entire cavity with grease, nor should you.
I don’t believe there’s an exact science as to how much grease. But you sure want more than just 2 neatly packed bearings and a clean empty void between the bearings and you don’t want so much thst the spinning grease is continually in contact with the spindle. The right answer is somewhere in between.
I typically put a few good size globs in the void along with generously packed bearings. Guessing maybe total of about 1/3 full.
Totally full and bearing buddies is just a guarantee of grease getting pushed past the rear seal pretty quick once things heat up.

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Boon Docker wrote:

Wow, that's what I call price gouging.
Considering it takes about one hour to do 4 wheels.

I disagree. If those are posted prices, you have the ability to decide if you want to pay for someone to do it, or invest $10 and do it yourself. The OP, or whomever else, can decide if its worth $230 to pay someone else or get their own hands dirty.

Its price gouging to sell water for $50/case after a hurricane.


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Thermoguy wrote:

Not in the NE, but the last time I did mine is when I was buying new tires. They did them for $30 each and it took them and extra 5-10 minutes per wheel. I watched them and they showed me how easy it is to do, but probably would have them do it again.

It cannot be done right that fast. Or did they just use a grease gun and pump some into the hub via the zerk?


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