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pianotuna
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To paraphrase Fiddler on the Roof "May God Bless the Government, and keep it far away from us".
Regards, Don
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Lantley
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FishOnOne wrote:Lantley wrote:All I will add to all this diatribe is that the real advantage of EV's is efficiency.
Charge time is not efficient.
Efficiency defines energy in this case, time is really a different parameter.
That said charging time does not derate the EV's efficiency nor does it limit its viability in most cases.
Sure if your competing in the 24 hours at Daytona or crossing the country in a competition like "It's a Mad Mad World". Charge time may have a huge impact, but for typical every day use charge time is not a huge factor.
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Lantley wrote:FishOnOne wrote:Lantley wrote:All I will add to all this diatribe is that the real advantage of EV's is efficiency.
Charge time is not efficient.
Efficiency defines energy in this case, time is really a different parameter.
That said charging time does not derate the EV's efficiency nor does it limit its viability in most cases.
Sure if your competing in the 24 hours at Daytona or crossing the country in a competition like "It's a Mad Mad World". Charge time may have a huge impact, but for typical every day use charge time is not a huge factor.
It does add up, but a lot depends on how you travel. On a 600 kilometre day we will spend 90 minutes supercharging, but 30 minutes of that is lunch so not really lost time. Realistically we probably lose an hour. But really for us when we are touring it’s rare for us to travel that far in a day. Many of our days we only travel 50 to 100 kilometres. But yep, on dead head days like over northern Ontario our days is probably an hour longer because of charging.
That can also get better or worse depending on wether we charge in the campground overnight. Although we do that commonly that is certainly not always the case as we dry camp a lot. And since we generally only rent 30 amp sites we rarely hit the road with more than 60 or 70 percent charge if we are just staying overnight.
This is outside of Sudbury Ontario and we are charging on a 30 amp site which is max 24 amps so around 3 kw an hour….ish.
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Lantley
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Reisinder Wrote:
Just keeping it real.
Reisinder I for one appreciate your post and your comments.
As someone who actually owns and dares to tow and camp with an EV you are a tremendous source of first hand knowledge.
My comments as far as charging and time were more directed at everyday use vs. towing.
With that in mind I challenge those who have not experienced a Tesla to find a way to take a ride in a Tesla.
I'm not suggesting it will make you wanna run out and buy an EV. But it will likely change your opinion and give you a better understanding of what the EV fuss is all about.
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Lantley wrote:Reisinder Wrote:
Just keeping it real.
Reisinder I for one appreciate your post and your comments.
As someone who actually owns and dares to tow and camp with an EV you are a tremendous source of first hand knowledge.
My comments as far as charging and time were more directed at everyday use vs. towing.
With that in mind I challenge those who have not experienced a Tesla to find a way to take a ride in a Tesla.
I'm not suggesting it will make you wanna run out and buy an EV. But it will likely change your opinion and give you a better understanding of what the EV fuss is all about.
Yep for sure. That test drive is a very awakening experience. ![[emoticon]](http://www.rv.net/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif "smile")
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pianotuna wrote:To paraphrase Fiddler on the Roof "May God Bless the Government, and keep it far away from us". Just repeat after me:
"We're from the government, and we're here to help you."
Howard and Peggy
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propchef wrote:FishOnOne wrote:Here's All Electric Family towing their Airstream using a strategy of two EV trucks to get their camper to the campground. Unbelievable!
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Thanks, that was fun.
BTW for those who haven't seen this, they're taking both EVs to an EV rally and they wanted to see which truck performs better. They say several times this is just a fun experiment and isn't the way they normally travel.
That's a beautiful 30' Airstream. :-)
How does a young family afford a very expensive Rivian, a very expensive Airstream AND an expensive F150 Lightning? I also would like to see how the Rivian and Lightning do towing a conventional TT, instead of the streamlined Airstream.
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bikendan wrote:propchef wrote:FishOnOne wrote:Here's All Electric Family towing their Airstream using a strategy of two EV trucks to get their camper to the campground. Unbelievable!
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Thanks, that was fun.
BTW for those who haven't seen this, they're taking both EVs to an EV rally and they wanted to see which truck performs better. They say several times this is just a fun experiment and isn't the way they normally travel.
That's a beautiful 30' Airstream. :-)
How does a young family afford a very expensive Rivian, a very expensive Airstream AND an expensive F150 Lightning? I also would like to see how the Rivian and Lightning do towing a conventional TT, instead of the streamlined Airstream.
From what I see discussed on the EV/RV Facebook groups they don’t. Most people with Rivians are towing lighter smaller lower profile trailers like ours. Seems to work quite well for them. I don’t pay as much attention to the lightning group but at least the folks we have talked to or corresponded with are towing lighter smaller units, although I know at least one who tows his what I consider fairly large trailer to a local forestry site every Friday night. Pretty close to town though. No idea what it says but it’s probably around 27 or so feet.
If it was me and I was pulling a big trailer I would go back to diesel. Right tool, right job.
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fj12ryder wrote:pianotuna wrote:To paraphrase Fiddler on the Roof "May God Bless the Government, and keep it far away from us". Just repeat after me:
"We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Yep, get the guvmint off our backs! Well, unless they want to send a Social Security check or pay my bills with Medicare or keep the Ruuskies out of my backyard....![[emoticon]](http://www.rv.net/sharedcontent/cfb/images/biggrin.gif "biggrin")
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fj12ryder
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shelbyfv wrote:fj12ryder wrote:pianotuna wrote:To paraphrase Fiddler on the Roof "May God Bless the Government, and keep it far away from us". Just repeat after me:
"We're from the government, and we're here to help you." Yep, get the guvmint off our backs! Well, unless they want to send a Social Security check or pay my bills with Medicare or keep the Ruuskies out of my backyard.... Now, now, just because you didn't pay into Social Security for 40 years doesn't mean the rest of didn't. I loaned that money to the government all those years, and now I want it back, just like they promised, with interest.
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