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Latner
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wnjj wrote:shelbyfv wrote:LOL,thanks but I can't afford to live in the PNW! Interesting and sad that you think you are able guess my politics by my posts about climate change. Maybe ask yourself why one of our political parties became anti-science. ![[emoticon]](http://www.rv.net/sharedcontent/cfb/images/scratchead.gif "scratchead")
Perhaps because science is so institutionalized that it has become $cience and some people recognize that. Imagine a scientist having a differing opinion about something without consequences. Also, “science” has been completely wrong plenty of times.
I can remember back in the 70's being told we need to get ready for the next "ice age" ![[emoticon]](http://www.rv.net/sharedcontent/cfb/images/rolleyes.gif "rolleyes")
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RambleOnNW
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An Exxon study done in 1982 focused on global warming by Increasing greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions. Remarkably, thirty-seven years ago Exxon accurately predicted that by 2019, the earth would hit a carbon dioxide concentration of 415 ppm and a temperature increase of almost 1°C (Figure 1).
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ianpalmer/2........ng-and-climate-change-from-40-years-ago/
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blt2ski
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I prefer to look at science as an ever evolving changing learning experience.
When I was in college early 80's, there was only a plant and animal kingdom. Went to my youngest daughters science teacher student eval around 2005. Daughter mentioned 5 kingdoms....I did a double take. She mentioned the new three. Realized the three new ones, my teacher had mentioned splitting these groups out as more was known about them.
Same thing happened 5-8 years later, she was literally taking the same Art color class, same college, different teacher. Their is now 99 shades of gray between black and white. Only 9 when I took the class. Reality with computers, I'm sure there are more shades of gray.
Things change as we learn about things. It will depend upon many things as to how long it will take to make things work.
Hydrogen pipes as noted is one item that needs fixing before using this fuel becomes a reality. How long will this take.
US being a supplier of lithium for batteries. YES largest mine in worl "will be" in Nevada. No permits have been give out yet!
As many have also noted, they have learned some things via this post. Let's continue to do so.
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Latner
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and yet Exxon just completed a $2B expansion to an oil refinery in Texas after being told by our leaders to increase production, even though said leaders want to shut down their industry.
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RambleOnNW
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blt2ski wrote:
As many have also noted, they have learned some things via this post. Let's continue to do so.
Marty
That’s a right on…
If one wants to learn a lot of interesting stuff, subscribe to Scientific American.
There I recently read about one thing that was in the back of my mind, why are nearly 2000 year old Roman concrete structures like the Pantheon and aqueducts still so intact? Modern concrete doesn’t last very long in comparison. Turns out they had a advantage over modern concrete since they used quicklime. What looked like a mixing mistake that formed clasts in the concrete actually formed a mechanism for self-healing of cracks in the concrete.
Perhaps there is a way to make modern roads much longer lived…
https://www.scientificamerican.com/artic........-concrete-has-self-healing-capabilities/
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RambleOnNW
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Latner wrote:
and yet Exxon just completed a $2B expansion to an oil refinery in Texas after being told by our leaders to increase production, even though said leaders want to shut down their industry.
Exxon did nothing for 40 years to solve the problem they knew they were helping to create. Instead they chose to finance obfuscation. Still, even today, they are doing little. It’s on them, their supporters, and the denialists they created for the planetary destruction in progress they have helped create. Hope you enjoyed last summer, it will be the coolest summer for the rest of your life. Over and out.
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Huntindog
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blt2ski wrote:
I prefer to look at science as an ever evolving changing learning experience.
When I was in college early 80's, there was only a plant and animal kingdom. Went to my youngest daughters science teacher student eval around 2005. Daughter mentioned 5 kingdoms....I did a double take. She mentioned the new three. Realized the three new ones, my teacher had mentioned splitting these groups out as more was known about them.
Same thing happened 5-8 years later, she was literally taking the same Art color class, same college, different teacher. Their is now 99 shades of gray between black and white. Only 9 when I took the class. Reality with computers, I'm sure there are more shades of gray.
Things change as we learn about things. It will depend upon many things as to how long it will take to make things work.
Hydrogen pipes as noted is one item that needs fixing before using this fuel becomes a reality. How long will this take.
US being a supplier of lithium for batteries. YES largest mine in worl "will be" in Nevada. No permits have been give out yet!
As many have also noted, they have learned some things via this post. Let's continue to do so.
Marty
No permits = no mine.
I am not at at all convinced that mine will happen.
One thing the enviromental faction has taught, is that all you gotta do is tie a project up in the permitting, enviromental reviews and then in the courts. Most projects never get off the ground anymore. Think about some of the big projects such as Hoover dam. It would never happen today.
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stsmark
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Respectfully, the Greeks built the Parthenon.
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RambleOnNW
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stsmark wrote:Respectfully, the Greeks built the Parthenon.
Thanks, my bad. Meant Pantheon. All the more amazing since it has a concrete dome. With no reinforcing steel.
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RambleOnNW
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blt2ski wrote:
I prefer to look at science as an ever evolving changing learning experience.
Some science is settled and scientists no longer find a controversy. For example Einstein received the Nobel prize in Physics in 1921 for discovering and explaining the photoelectric effect. Today we have billions of solar panels utilizing that photoelectric effect. Sure there is incremental engineering refinement however the basic science stands.
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