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shelbyfv wrote: fj12ryder wrote: pianotuna wrote: To paraphrase Fiddler on the Roof "May God Bless the Government, and keep it far away from us". Just repeat after me:
"We're from the government, and we're here to help you." ![smile [emoticon]](http://www.rv.net/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif) Yep, get the guvmint off our backs! Well, unless they want to send a Social Security check or pay my bills with Medicare or keep the Ruuskies out of my backyard.... ![biggrin [emoticon]](http://www.rv.net/sharedcontent/cfb/images/biggrin.gif)
I would like to add the roads we drive, the air we breath and water our kids will drink.
But the "Ruuskies"? Not sure about that.
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I want it too!! In fact, I hope to live long enough to get all mine and a bunch more as well. Currently 18.8 years to get bothEE and ER contributions, plus interest. So less than 10 years to get back our part. Those of us over 75 are cruising from now on!
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fj12ryder wrote: shelbyfv wrote: fj12ryder wrote: pianotuna wrote: To paraphrase Fiddler on the Roof "May God Bless the Government, and keep it far away from us". Just repeat after me:
"We're from the government, and we're here to help you." ![smile [emoticon]](http://www.rv.net/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif) Yep, get the guvmint off our backs! Well, unless they want to send a Social Security check or pay my bills with Medicare or keep the Ruuskies out of my backyard.... ![biggrin [emoticon]](http://www.rv.net/sharedcontent/cfb/images/biggrin.gif) Now, now, just because you didn't pay into Social Security for 40 years doesn't mean the rest of didn't. I loaned that money to the government all those years, and now I want it back, just like they promised, with interest. ![smile [emoticon]](http://www.rv.net/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif) Should we start by privatizing all roads into commercial toll roads?
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Reisender wrote: Lantley wrote: FishOnOne wrote: Lantley wrote: All I will add to all this diatribe is that the real advantage of EV's is efficiency.
Charge time is not efficient.
Efficiency defines energy in this case, time is really a different parameter.
That said charging time does not derate the EV's efficiency nor does it limit its viability in most cases.
Sure if your competing in the 24 hours at Daytona or crossing the country in a competition like "It's a Mad Mad World". Charge time may have a huge impact, but for typical every day use charge time is not a huge factor.
It does add up, but a lot depends on how you travel. On a 600 kilometre day we will spend 90 minutes supercharging, but 30 minutes of that is lunch so not really lost time. Realistically we probably lose an hour. But really for us when we are touring it’s rare for us to travel that far in a day. Many of our days we only travel 50 to 100 kilometres. But yep, on dead head days like over northern Ontario our days is probably an hour longer because of charging.
That can also get better or worse depending on wether we charge in the campground overnight. Although we do that commonly that is certainly not always the case as we dry camp a lot. And since we generally only rent 30 amp sites we rarely hit the road with more than 60 or 70 percent charge if we are just staying overnight.
This is outside of Sudbury Ontario and we are charging on a 30 amp site which is max 24 amps so around 3 kw an hour….ish.
Just keeping it real.
Awesome! Thanks for the info!
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map40

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Reisender wrote: Lantley wrote: Reisinder Wrote:
Just keeping it real.
Reisinder I for one appreciate your post and your comments.
As someone who actually owns and dares to tow and camp with an EV you are a tremendous source of first hand knowledge.
My comments as far as charging and time were more directed at everyday use vs. towing.
With that in mind I challenge those who have not experienced a Tesla to find a way to take a ride in a Tesla.
I'm not suggesting it will make you wanna run out and buy an EV. But it will likely change your opinion and give you a better understanding of what the EV fuss is all about.
Yep for sure. That test drive is a very awakening experience. ![smile [emoticon]](http://www.rv.net/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif)
EVs are addicting for the car and technology nuts. The immediate acceleration response and the torque make a lasting impression. I like letting people drive my little BMW and you can see their face change when they put their foot down and the car keeps going pass 90mph with no effort...
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map40 wrote: Reisender wrote: Lantley wrote: Reisinder Wrote:
Just keeping it real.
Reisinder I for one appreciate your post and your comments.
As someone who actually owns and dares to tow and camp with an EV you are a tremendous source of first hand knowledge.
My comments as far as charging and time were more directed at everyday use vs. towing.
With that in mind I challenge those who have not experienced a Tesla to find a way to take a ride in a Tesla.
I'm not suggesting it will make you wanna run out and buy an EV. But it will likely change your opinion and give you a better understanding of what the EV fuss is all about.
Yep for sure. That test drive is a very awakening experience. ![smile [emoticon]](http://www.rv.net/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif)
EVs are addicting for the car and technology nuts. The immediate acceleration response and the torque make a lasting impression. I like letting people drive my little BMW and you can see their face change when they put their foot down and the car keeps going pass 90mph with no effort...
Yah. We had someone with us for a short trip when pulling the trailer. The car does zero to 60 mph in about 4 seconds. It does it in about 8 seconds pulling the trailer. Should have heard the x rated expression when we stomped it going up an on ramp onto the highway. . Kinda fun. But you have make sure everything is well packed in the trailer. .
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Too many things do not make any sense.
At a time when we are all being pushed into EVs, and electricity supply is constrained.... We have companies with warehouses full of computers running 24/7 To "mine" fake money. The electricity wasted doing this could have far better and more productive uses.. Then this fake money is sold to a greater fool for real money in the hopes that an even greater fool will come along and pay even more for it. So long as we as a society fall into this madness, I do not see how we can possibly affect the climate in a positive way.
I have a long list of things that do not make any sense,,but this is enough for now
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Core Scientific, one of the largest bitcoin miners by computing power, has filed for bankruptcy protection. The company filed for Chapter 11 at the Southern District of Texas bankruptcy court.
https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2022/12........he-largest-bitcoin-miners-goes-bankrupt/
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Huntindog wrote: Too many things do not make any sense.
At a time when we are all being pushed into EVs, and electricity supply is constrained.... We have companies with warehouses full of computers running 24/7 To "mine" fake money. The electricity wasted doing this could have far better and more productive uses.. Then this fake money is sold to a greater fool for real money in the hopes that an even greater fool will come along and pay even more for it. So long as we as a society fall into this madness, I do not see how we can possibly affect the climate in a positive way.
I have a long list of things that do not make any sense,,but this is enough for now
Totally agree. Bitcoin is bizarre.
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JRscooby

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Reisender wrote: Huntindog wrote: Too many things do not make any sense.
At a time when we are all being pushed into EVs, and electricity supply is constrained.... We have companies with warehouses full of computers running 24/7 To "mine" fake money. The electricity wasted doing this could have far better and more productive uses.. Then this fake money is sold to a greater fool for real money in the hopes that an even greater fool will come along and pay even more for it. So long as we as a society fall into this madness, I do not see how we can possibly affect the climate in a positive way.
I have a long list of things that do not make any sense,,but this is enough for now
Totally agree. Bitcoin is bizarre.
Of course it is. OTOH, decades back, setting around a campfire, passing burning illegal substance around we tried to explain money to ET wanting to understand our society.
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