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FishOnOne

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4x4ord wrote:

They are both incredible. Which one did you order Fish?


He is a "Closet RAM Guy" [emoticon]


Just recently posted a video of the 2023 2500 Rebel with it's new mirrors. Didn't generate any interest.


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I priced out a new Ram dually Limited. I was considering trying a Ram out while I wait for my ‘23 Ford to come in. What ultimately lead to me sticking with what I have is fear that the 2023 Ram is apt to take a big hit in depreciation when the ‘24 comes out with 8 gears and 480 horsepower / 1200 lbft of torque.


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I priced out a new Ram dually Limited. I was considering trying a Ram out while I wait for my ‘23 Ford to come in. What ultimately lead to me sticking with what I have is fear that the 2023 Ram is apt to take a big hit in depreciation when the ‘24 comes out with 8 gears and 480 horsepower / 1200 lbft of torque.


"24 comes out with 8 gears and 480 horsepower / 1200 lbft of torque"


OK, where is this posted as fact?


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^^^ It’s not posted as fact anywhere as far as I know….. it’s just me thinking it’s pretty tough to compete in a 500 HP/10 speed market with 420 ponies and 6 gears.

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Plus Ram is way overdue to update their HD trucks to the new body style.

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FishOnOne wrote:

Plus Ram is way overdue to update their HD trucks to the new body style.


Aboot as overdue as they are to boot the 6speed slush boxes out the door.
And assuming they are still going with ZF if/when they change, it ain’t going to be soon.
Buddy who is a mid level manager at ZF, different division, says there’s not only no agreement or plans to ramp up the Powerline trans for Rams, everything around it is kinda dead, no new news. He!!, when Ram first started testing ZF Powerline transmissions, it was all hush hush because Ram was gonna be poised to be the first of the big 3 HD trucks with more than 6 gears.
Now they’re still selling 2007 model transmissions behind their diesels as fast as they can crank them out.

I wouldn’t change either if I was them. Not until they quit being able to sell all the trucks they make every year even though 2/3 of them have the tired old 68rfe and the rest have a slightly newer albeit very durable 6 speed…


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In before the "RAM doesn't need more gears" comment......


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In before the "RAM doesn't need more gears" comment......


It sure would help with improving fuel economy.

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FishOnOne wrote:

Bionic Man wrote:

In before the "RAM doesn't need more gears" comment......


It sure would help with improving fuel economy.


And noise level by running lower RPMs. And the simplicity of only having ONE transmission for their HD line. And getting competitive in HP/TQ in the 2500s…..

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4x4ord wrote:

^^^ It’s not posted as fact anywhere as far as I know….. it’s just me thinking it’s pretty tough to compete in a 500 HP/10 speed market with 420 ponies and 6 gears.


"the 2023 Ram is apt to take a big hit in depreciation when the ‘24 comes out with 8 gears and 480 horsepower / 1200 lbft of torque."

You will lose credibility by making these type statements. If you would have said guessing, or if, in that remark, you wouldn't be providing false info.

Yes, you did clear that up, after being confronted.

Jerry





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