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fj12ryder

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Cptnvideo wrote: Then why do manufacturers choose to install them when they cost more?
I prefer the one piece and I've had both.
The one piece is solid, easy to clean before stowing, and the legs adjust in a mere few seconds. But the folding stairs require no cleaning before putting away, and need no adjustment. Granted the mobility impaired may like the stability of the solid stairs. Personally I never noticed.
And I don't know that the solid steps are more expensive, they require no supporting structure to be built under the trailer, and are much simpler to construct. Personally I think the builders use them for the main reason behind most changes: improved economic feedback, i.e. less cost, more profit.
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Lantley

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They install them because they don't require a stair pocket beneath the door.
It allows more flexibility between floorplans and more flexibilty in deoor location.
They don't install them because they are better steps per se they install them because they create more options and potential savings in the assembly process.
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Cptnvideo

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I don't understand the objection to cleaning and adjusting. Both together take less than one minute. One minute of my retired day is quite insignificant.
I like the solid feel of my steps and knowing that no stress is transferred to the RV, even if a 300 pound person wants to jump up and down on the bottom step.
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fj12ryder wrote: Not bashing just being honest. IMO the solid steps have no advantages. ![smile [emoticon]](http://www.rv.net/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif)
100% agree! No Bueno Solid steps in my opinion. GlowSteps offered me a free set if I would evaluate them but I kindly declined as I am more than happy with these simple, solid and trouble free.
The extra step was not really needed. It is handy if needed.
People only know the CHEAP flimsy steps so the THINK standard are no good. These are VERY solid with no compromise.
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Only place to pull in has a one foot high curb a couple feet from the RV, what do you do? Stair treads out of level.
Me I just don't fold down last step.
Everyone has to have the latest and greatest without considering the disadvantages. If they had installed quality steps on these RV's we would not have the fold down plain and simple.
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Cptnvideo

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Cummins12V98 wrote: Only place to pull in has a one foot high curb a couple feet from the RV, what do you do? Stair treads out of level.
Me I just don't fold down last step.
WOW!! I have been EXTREMELY lucky - I have never had to park next to a one FOOT high curb. Come to think about it, I have NEVER seen a one foot high curb.
Now you're making stuff up just to justify the folding steps.
Like I said, there are pros and cons to both. Why can't you leave it at that???
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fj12ryder

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Cptnvideo wrote: Cummins12V98 wrote: Only place to pull in has a one foot high curb a couple feet from the RV, what do you do? Stair treads out of level.
Me I just don't fold down last step.
WOW!! I have been EXTREMELY lucky - I have never had to park next to a one FOOT high curb. Come to think about it, I have NEVER seen a one foot high curb.
Now you're making stuff up just to justify the folding steps.
Like I said, there are pros and cons to both. Why can't you leave it at that??? It doesn't take a one foot high curb to confound the steps. I have had to move my trailer because the uneven ground was too close to the trailer where the steps came down and wouldn't allow them to deploy. I had to move the trailer because of the steps!! If I had dropped the trailer, and unhooked the truck, and then found out the steps wouldn't work I'd have been really, really PO'ed. If you RV long enough and don't always stay on concrete slabs, you will eventually find yourself moving your trailer because your steps won't work.
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I have a 2008 Carriage that came with old Hickory steps; I believe that was the name. Two top rivets failed making them unusable each time it happened. A dollar and fifteen minutes later a shoulder bolt and a nylock from the local hardware store made them better than new.
Since, I got a good deal on Glowsteps when my friend upgraded his Imagine to a Solitude. I liked the OEM steps for convenience, but the Torquelifts have an extra step and are more stable. I'm happy with the Glowsteps but wouldn't drop full retail for them.
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Durb: Thanks for getting back on track and answering my original question. Yes, the OEM is Old Hickory. I had the same problem, and I applied rivets to the cross piece. Now, the metal sides are splitting. I am currently looking into Flexo, Alumi tread and Moreride. I have not been able to find another Old Hickory. Do you know the model or Glowsteps or Torquelift that will fit? I don't want to go Lippert. I don't think their quality it up there. Even though, the Moreride look good, I don't want to do any modifications to the inside of the RV to make them fit. Thanks again for keeping to the subject.
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fj12ryder

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The Aluma tread would be my choice of the three, but not sure about comparable prices. I know the Glowsteps are expensive, but not sure about the Aluma steps.
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