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Danger Don
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JRscooby wrote:Grit dog wrote:Bobbo wrote:Grit dog wrote:Find something constructive to do rather than sit around and gripe about politics. It’s a sign that you’re old and feeble.
If you think it is only the "old and feeble" who "sit around and gripe about politics," then you haven't been following the news reports about the social media crowd.
Sounds like you’re mKing excuses for being one of them! Lol
At age 18, when got my draft notice, I figured out that politics and politicians could drastically change my life. Served my time, was discharged before I was old enough to vote.
I have never understood how somebody that could tell me who got homeruns in the last 3 super bowls but can tell me who represents then in congress, and how they voted on any issue.
ronharmless wrote:Gee, I can’t imagine how dead people and their imaginary friends could be disenfranchised. That’s all anyone is trying to stop from voting.
If that was the case, sounds good. But I have worked as Election Judge since I retired. For in person voting, a concealed carry permit is a valid ID, but ID issued by the state collage is not. Both are alive. A student, and workers on many jobs may not be home on a day near the middle of week. Mail in is best way for them to vote. Do you think US could respond to a threat if all troops went home first part of Nov?
BTW, many years of my life, I could not be sure where I would be on election day. And now I don't work at the polling place my address must vote, so I still vote early
A great deal of 2nd or 3rd generation folks on the public dole may also not be home on a day near the middle of week. They might be busy with hobbies such as Physical Fitness or buying seafood and Ribeyes with SNAP cards, or possibly even out looking for a job but I doubt it. Mail in voting is the best way for them to vote also.
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JRscooby
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Danger Don wrote:
A great deal of 2nd or 3rd generation folks on the public dole may also not be home on a day near the middle of week. They might be busy with hobbies such as Physical Fitness or buying seafood and Ribeyes with SNAP cards, or possibly even out looking for a job but I doubt it. Mail in voting is the best way for them to vote also.
If you would spend a little bit of time looking at any news media, other than Fox, you would know that when put under oath, where a lie could land them in jail all the talking heads knew they where lying about a pretty important news story. Maybe you believe the lies they are telling you about other things?
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^Perzactly!
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Make Election Day a national holiday, only day to vote, only mail ins are military. Do away with all the other BS. Vote at your REAL home. Full timers show up where you “call” home to vote register your vehicles, get drivers license, etc like I do.
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Walaby
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I think in order to vote in local and state elections (including Senator/Congressmen), then one should have a stick and brick residence in the state and community. Why should someone who only cares about not paying state income tax and pay for cheap motor vehicle registration get to help decide local and state issues and vote for representatives?
As retired military, I agree military members should always have the opportunity to vote absentee. I also feel there are probably other legitimate reasons for someone to need to vote absentee. If you're a full timer, Im fairly certain you can plan ahead to return to your state of residence and cast a vote every couple of years. But if someone is too lazy to vote in person every two years, then they are probably too lazy to research the issues.
There's also no real rationale in my opinion, for not being able to have a state issued license. Sorry, but a state college ID is issued by the college, not the state. And maybe Im wrong, but I don't think there's a citizenship check to issue a college ID. At least my granddaughter never had to prove citizenship to get her state college issued ID. It's really not too much to ask that we have provisions to ensure only US citizens get to vote in our elections.
I also love how, when there is a case of voter fraud, dead people voting etc, one of the first comments that are always uttered is "it wasn't enough to change the election". That's not the point. The only way to protect against voter fraud is to publicize it when it happens, punish those who commit it, and take steps to help keep it from happening again.
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JRscooby
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ferndaleflyer wrote:Make Election Day a national holiday, only day to vote, only mail ins are military. Do away with all the other BS. Vote at your REAL home. Full timers show up where you “call” home to vote register your vehicles, get drivers license, etc like I do.
Whenever I see Make Election Day a National Holiday my first thought is somebody does not pay attention to local elections, or how national elections work. Where I live, the next election is April 4, 2023. (Last year I worked 4 elections). How can you have primary election on the same day as general?
Then there is the issue of "holiday". How many people would take off Monday, so could have a 4 day weekend?
"only mail ins are military." Implies you either don't know that a lot of other important jobs are done by people that can't get home, or you prefer working class don't vote. (Once I had to stand in a unexpected line to vote early. Bunch of power company workers had been called to head south, responding to a hurricane. Should their voices not count?)
Last election I worked, there where several issues on the ballot, plus the mid-terms. We had a limited number of places for people to mark ballot, so I kind of watched the time each voter was taking between check in, and dropping ballot in box. Could tell, some knew who where going to vote for, had studied the issues on sample ballot, would mark the whole thing in less than 10 minutes. Others, where surprised by the issues, and local candidates that had not been called evil by ads (no party affiliation on ballot in local races) The ones that take citizenship duties seriously might take over 45 minutes reading, researching with phone, and marking. Then there was a 3rd group; Ads had told them who was evil, so they could mark that part quickly, but the rest of the ballot? More than once we heard THEY EXPECT US TO READ ALL THIS SNOT? (Insert more health word) I feel the third group would rather be ruled than represented, if required any work on their part. But don't think the other 2 groups would vote much different if where mailing it in.
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Strange so many against democracy and the right to vote. Hell, Walaby wants only land owners to be able to vote. Do I see any hands for a poll tax? Hey we tried that allowing women to vote how is that working? Glad this bunch isn't writing the voting laws.
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Walaby wrote:I think in order to vote in local and state elections (including Senator/Congressmen), then one should have a stick and brick residence in the state and community.
In the 1700's and early 1800's, only landed gentry (land owners) could vote. Do you really want to go back to that? Do you not think folks who rent property should have a vote? What about "universal suffrage"?
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stickdog wrote:Strange so many against democracy and the right to vote. Hell, Walaby wants only land owners to be able to vote. Do I see any hands for a poll tax? Hey we tried that allowing women to vote how is that working? Glad this bunch isn't writing the voting laws.
You’re reading way too much into what Walaby wrote. Residence does not equal land owner and is also a perfectly common sense requirement for voting. How else do you attach one person to one vote? Seems very democratic to me.
We are also a constitutional republic, not a democracy.
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With the clowns, crooks, and liars in office at all levels we may just as well have a dart throwing election.
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