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pianotuna

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Posted: 02/13/23 10:34am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Hi,

Interesting to see this opinion:

https://www.quora.com/If-all-of-the-worl........-at-the-same-time/answer/Steve-Baker-100


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Depends. California mandates every motor vehicle to become EV and all new homes to not have any other source of energy than electrical. They are looking at a grid equal to the totals output capacity of several Grand Coulee Dams generation.
Interties, transmission, distribution capacity would have to increase 4-700%. Are you ready to see four to seven times more electrical towers? Nuclear plants? What's the daily KW needs of a 70,000 pound cargo truck in mountainous terrain?

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Well that settles it….it’s not a problem…..for people with simple brains doing “simple math.”
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Hi Mex,

I'm sure all California new homes come with solar panels, and likely with batteries included.

Though I want an EV it is not a "need". It would be a poor choice as the 2013 Elantra I drive has 76000 kilometres (47224 miles) and received a new upper block under warranty only 7000 k (4350 miles) ago. The body is in great shape and I drive it less than 5000k per year.

I'll be 75 in just 15 days. Unless the Elantra has a catastrophic failure I don't see an economical way to get an EV. If I did have one, level one charging would meet all of my needs. Out of town I use my trusty Class C.

Then there is the battery heating that is needful where I live. I would certainly spend more for heating than for actual driving. I do hope another battery technology that is not so finicky will replace the Li.

* This post was edited 02/13/23 01:26pm by pianotuna *

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To answer the question, NO! No power plants being built and solar and wind just have no chance of getting it done. I suppose some think rolling blackouts will just vanish with nothing to replace the added consumption. And those of you buying into this myth are just enablers for the woke folks.

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ferndaleflyer wrote:

And those of you buying into this myth are just enablers for the woke folks.
And with that comment I'll give this thread another page of survival... depending, or course, on the political leanings of the moderator. There are certain subjects that simply cannot be discussed on this forum without the inevitable bashing.

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There are still a lot of houses in my area that only have 60 amp electrical service with old glass fuses but the folks who live in them would never be able to afford an electric car anyway.

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MEXICOWANDERER wrote:

Depends. California mandates every motor vehicle to become EV and all new homes to not have any other source of energy than electrical. They are looking at a grid equal to the totals output capacity of several Grand Coulee Dams generation.
Interties, transmission, distribution capacity would have to increase 4-700%. Are you ready to see four to seven times more electrical towers? Nuclear plants? What's the daily KW needs of a 70,000 pound cargo truck in mountainous terrain?
The link provides some background and ultimately say we may need 10% more power over 25+ years.
Where are your numbers to get to 400% to 700%?


ferndaleflyer wrote:

To answer the question, NO! No power plants being built and solar and wind just have no chance of getting it done. I suppose some think rolling blackouts will just vanish with nothing to replace the added consumption. And those of you buying into this myth are just enablers for the woke folks.
What part of the link do you disagree with? Please provide the math or thought process.

Do you even know what woke means? Or is just a symbol of hate for you?


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Posted: 02/13/23 03:27pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

As with all new technology the BOO BIRDS speak out.
Same was said about the first cars, airplanes, computers etc.

It has to start someplace, it will get better. Your grandchildren will wonder what the fuss was all about.

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Interesting. Thanks Don.

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