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Grit dog
Black Diamond, WA
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BackOfThePack wrote:It’s a bad idea in all ways.
200# far from the axle centerline “weighs more” given tail-whip (centrifugal force). Shortens the already too-short amount of time to correct trailer sway (a few seconds in best conditions). That, alone, mitigates against it.
Second, it tends to either cover or obstruct trailer brake/turn/warning lights. From several angles. Again, this ALONE mitigates against it.
Third, backing is more difficult as this increases the amount of “trailer swing”. AND one can’t see the edge leading as one backs (I do this for a living: the joke about truck drivers is that they don’t pay us to drive them somewhere, they pay is TO BACK THEM as the vast majority of truck-caused property damage is while backing). Lose any idea you can avoid backing.
Fourth, and potentially the most serious, is related to number one in that one has lengthened the sail area against a crosswind.
Winds are the TT problem. “Vision” by operator and others is hampered. (We can find more).
To go camping means toss some clothes, food and beer into trailer. I believe you need to clean it out (100%) and start over in packing what you actually use. We all go thru the pains of adding too much and having to remove the “what if & just-in-case” stuff.
Make going camping simpler. If you do, you’ll go more often. (Bank on it)
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Roflmmfo!
Where to start …
1. Yes or maybe but not necessarily. Especially since you have no idea how much weight the OP was thinkin about hauling back there or the trailer weight/tongue weight.
2. Nope not even close. Google a hitch rack and then go measure the spread between your tail lights… duhhh
3. Nope again, refer to #2. Width. Maaaaybe in a perfect 90 deg ijackinife with virtually zero extra clearance. But by then if you don’t have a spotter, a camera or legs, to get out and check, you’ll probably smash the corner of the trailer first.
4. Lol. This is perhaps the funniest, biggest stretch to try to sound smart. Exactly how much “sail area” is added with a little piece of angle iron and some firewood/genny and gas can, mother in laws suitcase, you know the typical stuff that goes on a light duty hitch carrier?
5. Now you’re just trying to hard to create text.
6. No one cares how “you” camp, nor is it polite to presume a whole bunch of stuff about someone else because you conjured up an image or opinion.
If you’d have stopped after “bad idea” (generally, due to the lightweight construction of camper bumpers) you would have had a lucid response.
Cheers slowmover!
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ktmrfs
Portland, Oregon
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I cut off the rear bumper and rear attachments on our outback and designed and installed my own rear bumper. I used reciever and hitch tubing to make an adjustable length carrier section that I can slide in and out. I used real square tubing for the bumper. Then I made expanded metal carriers I can drop into and attach to the extension between the trailer and hitch. I also welded on stingers to use for bike racks etc. The reciever tubing was welded to the trailer frame on the outside of the frame for about 2ft
Yes,it adds weight to the rear of the trailer when loaded however even with it fully loaded my tongue weight is still over 15%, 9,000lb plus trailer weight, 1400 on the tongue with no water in the tanks, over 1500 with fresh filled or waste water.
Rack usually has a cooler, two bins with the things we need to start camping, chocks, ramps etc. or the last to go back as well as the spare tire.
And even with everything on the rack, including 2 e bikes, lights are still visible, license plate is visible,
Traveled 50K plus miles, various campgrounds, along the columbia river gorge many a time with high winds, never any issues.
The extra length does impact what spots I can back the trailer into, no question.
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valhalla360
No paticular place.
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MFL wrote:
I often wonder how many spare tires, that are only fastened to the bumper are lost? Many RV trailers including my last three, have the spare fastened to bumper only.
Bikes or anything moveable and hanging off, much different than a spare though.
Jerry
The big difference is spare tires sit almost directly over the bumper. As a result, there isn't much leverage. (the COG might be 4-6inches behind the bumper).
3 Bikes will have a COG likely a couple feet behind the bumper resulting in several times as much leverage trying to tear off the sheet metal bumper.
If you want to do this get a frame mounted hitch. Also, triple check you hitch weight. 75-100lb doesn't sound like much but particularly on small trailers, it might push the hitch weight below 10% and cause it to get squirrelly when towing.
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ford truck guy
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My “STUFF” makes my vaca great again!!
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Samsonsworld
West Texas
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Carried a 100lb generator and 5 gallon gas can on a cargo rack for years with no issues but wouldn't recommend it. Not worth it if something does go wrong. My $.02.
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