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Grit dog
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I hate quote fests ….so @propchef, yeah Ram has had issues with grid heaters for a while.
To the point that many disconnect them permanently. Not the wiring plug short but arcing and dropping a grid heater bolt into the intake and subsequently the engine.
Would be nice to get a recall rod on both.
My solution is just to not use the grid heater. It’s not really warranted or needed until temps are below zero F anyway. The big C starts just fine without any help even in most winter temperatures.
Agree though, it’s and issue. Just like ALL other mfgs have or had major issues.
Thanks for the heads up though since I probably have a truck that’s included in that recall, just like others.
Not sure how your post related to unsold F Lightnings though….or even remotely to the subject of the thread…
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Dadoffourgirls wrote: Except GM has a new policy that employees cannot sell vehicles for a profit for 12 months after purchase.
Now if they only had a policy that their dealers can not r ape the buyer by charging $5K or more over MSRP. I personally hope new sales slide off the cliff, which seems to start to be happening and accelerating.
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That's not a new policy for GM ... I can remember the certificates we got years ago in Buffalo NY . RIght on it said, 'Cannot sell vehicle in less than twelve months.' Don't remember the exact wording, but similar. Twenty years ago, at least. GM might have changed the policy and the wording more recently, but that policy has generally been in effect over the years. I know you work for GM, I might have the wording and current policy inaccurate as often as things change, so mean no offense to your comment Do4gs. ![[emoticon]](http://www.rv.net/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif "smile")
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Danger Don wrote:Dadoffourgirls wrote: Except GM has a new policy that employees cannot sell vehicles for a profit for 12 months after purchase.
Now if they only had a policy that their dealers can not r ape the buyer by charging $5K or more over MSRP. I personally hope new sales slide off the cliff, which seems to start to be happening and accelerating. So basically you’re hoping for a deep (off the cliff) recession or worse?
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There is no glut of pick-ups. Prices tell the story.
I only bought a new truck because used ones cost just as much.
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Grit dog wrote:I hate quote fests ….so @propchef, yeah Ram has had issues with grid heaters for a while.
To the point that many disconnect them permanently. Not the wiring plug short but arcing and dropping a grid heater bolt into the intake and subsequently the engine.
Would be nice to get a recall rod on both.
My solution is just to not use the grid heater. It’s not really warranted or needed until temps are below zero F anyway. The big C starts just fine without any help even in most winter temperatures.
Agree though, it’s and issue. Just like ALL other mfgs have or had major issues.
Thanks for the heads up though since I probably have a truck that’s included in that recall, just like others.
Not sure how your post related to unsold F Lightnings though….or even remotely to the subject of the thread…
I responded to a comment. It was quoted. :-)
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^Ya, 10-4!
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Groover wrote: Ford sent me a $2000 coupon for a new F series truck a couple of weeks ago. I just checked incentives for the F150 and they are offering 0% financing for 3 years plus $1000 Bonus cash through the end of February.
Great!
Lets do the math.
2023 XLT trim level, Supercrew, 6-1/2 bed 4x4 with the 3.5 Ecoboost and no other added options except for Max tow package.
MSRP = $54,585.00
Less the $2000.00 Coupon and $1000.00 cash so $51,585.00
Throw 10% down = amount financed somewhere in the neighborhood of $49,000.00 adding back in taxes, paperwork, tags etc
$49K financed for 36 months at 0% is only $1361.00 per month for what amounts to a lower tier pickup.
Now that's a deal right there LOL. You could probably get 4.9% for 72 which is only $680.00 per month, oh boy, what a bargain!
How about a semi loaded F-150 Lariat for @ $70K sticker, same math.
$62300.00 financed all in after plopping down 10%, 36 monyhs at 0%.
$1730.00 per month.
Have at it LOL. I'd be waiting at the door when they open.
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Dadoffourgirls
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monkey44 wrote:That's not a new policy for GM ... I can remember the certificates we got years ago in Buffalo NY . RIght on it said, 'Cannot sell vehicle in less than twelve months.' Don't remember the exact wording, but similar. Twenty years ago, at least. GM might have changed the policy and the wording more recently, but that policy has generally been in effect over the years. I know you work for GM, I might have the wording and current policy inaccurate as often as things change, so mean no offense to your comment Do4gs.
The policy for over 15 years was that the purchaser must retain the vehicle for 6 months.
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Dadoffourgirls wrote:monkey44 wrote:That's not a new policy for GM ... I can remember the certificates we got years ago in Buffalo NY . RIght on it said, 'Cannot sell vehicle in less than twelve months.' Don't remember the exact wording, but similar. Twenty years ago, at least. GM might have changed the policy and the wording more recently, but that policy has generally been in effect over the years. I know you work for GM, I might have the wording and current policy inaccurate as often as things change, so mean no offense to your comment Do4gs.
The policy for over 15 years was that the purchaser must retain the vehicle for 6 months.
OK, I've been out of that mix for a while - I do remember it was a rule of some sort for us years ago. So, GM went from six month to new a year. Must have its reasons ... My last GMC I kept fourteen years and 214,000 miles, so am out of touch. Plus, divorced my certificate a few years ago.
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