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Thermoguy
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Back to the subject of the thread....
Some areas are going to ban the sale of ICE vehicles, but what I have seen is major cities banning the sale of gas and Diesel. Its an attempt to reduce smog and pollutants. Yes, all politically motivated. All of this will change in the next 15 years. Look what's changed in the last 15.
What would be great is if we could save most of these comments then go back in 15 years and see how wrong we all were. My crystal ball says all of you ICE hard core enthusiasts will change your mind when you get your first non ICE vehicle and when they release something that can tow the biggest 5th wheel with less effort than our gas hogs now. It's coming.... just like everything else.... sooner than you think.
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Cptnvideo
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It's not just the ability to tow, but the range while towing.
And what about sitting at a charge station with a big 5th wheel attached?
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Cptnvideo wrote:It's not just the ability to tow, but the range while towing.
And what about sitting at a charge station with a big 5th wheel attached?
The megacharger stalls are built to accommodate full length semi trailers. I’m sure they’ll be able to accommodate a fifth wheel and one ton electric truck when they build one some day.
Right now the existing electric vehicles with tow packages tend to tow smaller trailers. The only exception is the YouTubers that hook up a 28 foot trailer to a half ton truck. The vast majority of the thousands of EV RVers out there are pulling smaller units suited to their tow vehicle and getting reasonable results.
Trailer pull thrus for smaller combos are starting to get more common although many more are needed. We rarely have to unhook although it happens sometimes. We need more pull thrus like this. It all takes time.
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Change is never a good thing until it becomes a good thing. Then everyone that fought against it claims to have been for it all along.
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As for charging time, when we travel long distance I figure refueling time is at least 20 minutes. The time to exit the freeway, get in line at a gas station, fill up and be on my way.
so..... based on the advances in fast charging if the Gov't would change the laws around interstate rest stops and allow comercial activity, good chance I could pull into a rest stop, hook up, use the facilities, get a short rest and be on my way in about the same time it takes today to refuel.
BTW I've been to europe, The rest stops in europe are DECADES AND MILES AHEAD OF US. nice rest stops, restauarants, fuel, and other stuff all in one stop.
I suspect the rules on no comercial activity on US. interstate rest stops was just a way to placate cities that were being bypassed by interstate to get people to stop in the city.
Just like when unleaded fuel became a requirement, all the sudden it happens and "fueling" will be as easy or easier than today AND I'll be able to avoid trips to the "gas" station most of the time by recharging at home.
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ktmrfs wrote:As for charging time, when we travel long distance I figure refueling time is at least 20 minutes. The time to exit the freeway, get in line at a gas station, fill up and be on my way.
so..... based on the advances in fast charging if the Gov't would change the laws around interstate rest stops and allow comercial activity, good chance I could pull into a rest stop, hook up, use the facilities, get a short rest and be on my way in about the same time it takes today to refuel.
Course naysayers will say "but power isn't available at the rest stops!" well true today, but I suspect if it was opened up just like with cell phone transmission auctions, companies and power companies would be lining up to bid.
BTW I've been to europe, The rest stops in europe are DECADES AND MILES AHEAD OF US. nice rest stops, restauarants, fuel, and other stuff all in one stop.
I suspect the rules on no comercial activity on US. interstate rest stops was just a way to placate cities that were being bypassed by interstate to get people to stop in the city.
Just like when unleaded fuel became a requirement, all the sudden it happens and "fueling" will be as easy or easier than today AND I'll be able to avoid trips to the "gas" station most of the time by recharging at home.
Yah that’s about right. Typical supercharge stop is 15 to 20 minutes. But we stop every 3 hours. I can’t go longer than that without a pee break. Pull in, hook up, and go look after business, get another coffee, stretch the legs, crank off a dozen push-ups and squats and hit the road. Typically 15 or 20 minutes.
Having said that when we are pulling our trailer we drain the battery further and sooner and the charge times are typically 5 or 10 minutes longer.
It all works but our habits change a bit.
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NamMedevac 70 wrote:I assume a bison expels much more gas than a cow??? But the greenies love those bison and say nothing about their gas expelling.
I have never had a bison burger. Maybe someday. we now have almost 40 million cattle
there used to be 60 million bison. so we reduced our 4 legged fart critters by 20 million. yet the greenies blame supossed increased methane levels on the cattle. there are two basic flaws.
1.nobody was measuring methane levels back then.
2.with 20 million more bison which are larger than cows,the bison farts had to produce more methane than todays cattle.
so todays cattle ranchers should be able to claim credits for reducing methane production.
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ktmrfs wrote:As for charging time, when we travel long distance I figure refueling time is at least 20 minutes. The time to exit the freeway, get in line at a gas station, fill up and be on my way.
so..... based on the advances in fast charging if the Gov't would change the laws around interstate rest stops and allow comercial activity, good chance I could pull into a rest stop, hook up, use the facilities, get a short rest and be on my way in about the same time it takes today to refuel.
Course naysayers will say "but power isn't available at the rest stops!" well true today, but I suspect if it was opened up just like with cell phone transmission auctions, companies and power companies would be lining up to bid.
BTW I've been to europe, The rest stops in europe are DECADES AND MILES AHEAD OF US. nice rest stops, restauarants, fuel, and other stuff all in one stop.
I suspect the rules on no comercial activity on US. interstate rest stops was just a way to placate cities that were being bypassed by interstate to get people to stop in the city.
Just like when unleaded fuel became a requirement, all the sudden it happens and "fueling" will be as easy or easier than today AND I'll be able to avoid trips to the "gas" station most of the time by recharging at home. https://youtu.be/3xDPthEy1gM
havent been to Europe but seen some travelers in Japan and their highway rest stops are pretty awesome too.
All kinds of foods snacks souvenirs and even showers available.
https://youtu.be/3xDPthEy1gM
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NamMedevac 70 wrote:I assume a bison expels much more gas than a cow??? But the greenies love those bison and say nothing about their gas expelling.
I have never had a bison burger. Maybe someday.
Bison meat is very lean dry. I dont like it.
Btw its cows breath that expels CO2 alegedly the cause of global heating not methane.
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free radical wrote:NamMedevac 70 wrote:I assume a bison expels much more gas than a cow??? But the greenies love those bison and say nothing about their gas expelling.
I have never had a bison burger. Maybe someday.
Bison meat is very lean dry. I dont like it.
Btw its cows breath that expels CO2 alegedly the cause of global heating not methane.
cook it rare or medium rare, then it isn't dry. Anything more than medium rare and yup, it's dry. so, if you prefer med well or well done, Bison is NOT for you
and what do you think you expel when you breath? Yup it's CO2 but methane is a way worse for global warming than C02.
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