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Wow. I guess it’s nice to know the weight police are still in force! LOL

As has been said. It ties it just fine. I wouldn’t be concerned with being even 500lbs over the GVWR. That’s a small TT for an Expedition L.


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APT wrote:

How does it feel @highway speeds? 2-lane roads, and multi-lane interstates when passing or being passed?

While I an a card-carrying member of the weight police, I have also personally towed above vehicle ratings for thousands of miles. My comfort level was mostly based on how I adjusted my Reese Strait Line WDH, not any specific rating.

The only recommendation I have is to increase the WD more to the front than you have now. That may mean more hitch head angle, fewer links under tension, etc.


^A good post from an actual rv.net weight cop (and a knowledgeable member)!![emoticon]

While many of us have towed safely/comfortably well past listed ratings, it may lead to driveline malfunctions sooner. I've personally experienced this on several vehicles, at around 50K on the clock. In both cases, easily fixed, by just purchasing another new truck.

A new TV, or low mileage one will handle loads to max rating and beyond, most times.

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APT wrote:

How does it feel @highway speeds? 2-lane roads, and multi-lane interstates when passing or being passed?

While I an a card-carrying member of the weight police, I have also personally towed above vehicle ratings for thousands of miles. My comfort level was mostly based on how I adjusted my Reese Strait Line WDH, not any specific rating.

The only recommendation I have is to increase the WD more to the front than you have now. That may mean more hitch head angle, fewer links under tension, etc.


I towed all last season from Michigan to Yellowstone, Mt Glacier, Moab and back without an issue. Handled great, even in really bad winds in Nebraska and South Dakota. You read about people that fought the trailer and had terrible experiences white knuckling all the way. That has never been my experience. The truck is stable and I don't feel buffeting while passing or being passed.

The Ecoboost pulled up the mountains of Colorado without working hard. The Navigator has a tow haul mode that holds the low gear and provides engine break. Works nicely going down hill. I did all this towing with a Husky Centerline WDH. I have since upgraded it to a Hensley and while I haven't gone on a long run, I can say that it is night and day as far as sway on my test run.

My wife made a few good points last night.

Pro Navi:
1. 90% of the time we go out with only 4 of us. The 2 older kids are at an age where they are not participating as much. That puts us well within the limits.

2. If the situation arises and all 6 of us are traveling, we take a 2nd vehicle with us.

3. You tow 3 months out of the year. Are you going to hate having a 3/4 ton truck as a DD?

4. If you get a 3/4 ton truck, how far will we go with 5 people in it before the rear passengers turn on each other? Can you do 10 hour drives like we like to do?

Pro 3/4:
1. If you get a 3/4 ton truck you will never have to worry about going to the scales and weighing in every trip.

2. If you get a 3/4 ton truck you can always get a bigger trailer if you want.

3. If you get a 3/4 ton truck I will never drive it. You don't have to worry about me taking your vehicle. [emoticon]

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Grit dog wrote:

One point to make with IRS is the axle isn’t weight bearing per se like a conventional solid axle. So that eliminates a couple potential failure points and shuffles the most likely failure to the springs (in my opinion, since I’ve never broken an irs axle or even 1/2 ton air shocks/springs).
Or far more anecdotally, how many newer Expe/Navi, Tahoe/Burb/Yukon, Armadas or sequoias are out there towing 3 ton trailers of any flavor?
Answer: ALOT of them.
Pack your stuff and go camping! Worry about other things.


Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. The Navigator has an Adaptive Suspension with 3 settings. It’s possible to play with the damper’s firmness on the fly.

I run LT Michelin Defender LTX tires. I think I am good there.

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Grit dog wrote:

^Nice setup!
And apparently it’s been to Wyoming and presumably back to Mitch e gun, so you don’t need much advice from the armchair QBs here!
Rock on!


Thanks! We have gone on 3K mile trips from Michigan with this set up a few times.

First run was South Dakota, Wyoming, Montana, North Dakota, back home to Michigan. Next was Nebraska, Colorado, Utah and back to MI. Third was South Dakota, Wyoming, back to Michigan.

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ryhed wrote:

I can guarantee you one stop from the DOT on a set of scales and they'll tow your tt to the holding yard until you get a vehicle big enough to tow it if you are over.


ROFLMAO...........

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Your putting your famyily, camper and truck at high risk, your gonna burn out your daily driver in my opinion.


Not to mention also putting at risk the driving public in general, contributing to reducing the living conditions of society in general. Oh the humanity.

Do some of you folks truly believe this drivel you come up with?


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CWilson wrote:

ryhed wrote:

I can guarantee you one stop from the DOT on a set of scales and they'll tow your tt to the holding yard until you get a vehicle big enough to tow it if you are over.


ROFLMAO...........

ryhed wrote:

Your putting your famyily, camper and truck at high risk, your gonna burn out your daily driver in my opinion.


Not to mention also putting at risk the driving public in general, contributing to reducing the living conditions of society in general. Oh the humanity.

Do some of you folks truly believe this drivel you come up with?


I wonder what the cops here think of this? [emoticon] [emoticon]

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OMG...looks like a suicide rig!!

I always went by "if it'll pull it, maintain a reasonable speed, gotta be OK". [emoticon]


On a more serious note, I have that same exact mailbox.

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That was some serious skill or luck to miss the basketball hoop. Oh, and the grass is nice and green.


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tommyznr wrote:

That was some serious skill or luck to miss the basketball hoop. Oh, and the grass is nice and green.


Is not our first rodeo, LOL.
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