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free radical wrote:

wildtoad wrote:

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I am hoping a change at the top, will stop this ridiculousness.


Ah yes, the ever popular ridiculousness of trying to save our environment.


If every vehicle - car, plane, train, truck, tractor in America was suddenly electric, and every home possible had their own charger, charging stations were sufficiently available, and the grid could support real time charging the impact on climate / global warming will be negligible especially if you factor in the damage done to the environment from all the destructive mining required for the minerals. But you can’t flip a switch to make it happen.

Americans are going to go through times to get all electric for questionable benefit.

Im not worried about global warming,few degrees wont make any diference imo.
However people up north where permafrost melts can make their houses sink into the mud.
And make driving on the tundra imposible.

Main advantage of EVs are it doesnt polute air with STINKY EXHAUST FUMES which kills milions of people and make many sick.

Also EV cost way less money to drive.

And lithium is very easy to harvest or mine,oil production is 100x more destructive.


You’re joking right? Gotta be.


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free radical wrote:

Also EV cost way less money to drive.

And lithium is very easy to harvest or mine,oil production is 100x more destructive.


I own an electric car and no it doesn't. I've done the math many times on this forum. In fact, if I ever get my hybrid car back from the shop I will only run it on gas to save money.

You keep on telling yourself that. This Super Fund will last forever. Forever is a long time.


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Looks like the new EPA requirements will be forcing the auto industry to shift to EV vehicles at a faster pace at a time when EV's and the power grid is not able to support this change on this proposed timeline.

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I think Blinden is just trying to apeal to voters.

No one has to force anyone to buy EVs.
Tesla is so popular it has waiting line of buyers.

And their eficient production alows it to lower prices to efectively destroy the competiton.

Even IF legacy auto makers could build at same cost parity,their stealerships would add huge mark up making Tesla better deal every time.

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Turtle n Peeps wrote:

free radical wrote:

Also EV cost way less money to drive.

And lithium is very easy to harvest or mine,oil production is 100x more destructive.


I own an electric car and no it doesn't. I've done the math many times on this forum. In fact, if I ever get my hybrid car back from the shop I will only run it on gas to save money.

You keep on telling yourself that. This Super Fund will last forever. Forever is a long time.

You dont drive Tesla= the best most eficent w best SCharging network.
When if you ever do calculate the cost again.

https://www.volkswagenag.com/en/news/sto........ble%20from,China%20(1%20million%20tons).

How do the mining methods differ?
Put simply, lithium from Australia comes from ore mining, while in Chile and Argentina lithium comes from salt deserts, so-called salars. The extraction of raw materials from salars functions as follows:

lithium-containing saltwater from underground lakes is brought to the surface and evaporates in large basins. The remaining saline solution is further processed in several stages until the lithium is suitable for use in batteries.

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