jjj
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Getting ready for replacement tires for the fiver. Michelin
tires sidewalls prematurely failed according to Americas tires. Due
to health issues could not get 3 back to them for replacements. They
replaced one under their warranty. Now looking for new ones. I
have been looking at GY Endurance but also see Americas tires
Hartland. They are steel interior and read the are made to their
standards even though they are China tires which I do not
care for. I was wondering if anyone has tried their Hartland tire
and if so what success you have had. Working on a budget and 400.00
less then GY Endurance but still don't want to get stuck with junk
if I don't have too.
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JIMNLIN
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Looking at used '06 Challenger 34 TBH on the net shows a 14000 gvwr and ST 235/80-16 E tires (3600 lbs capacity) and 7k axles.
I don't know of any 16" Michelin tires with 3500 lbs + capacity for a trailer with 7k axles.
The only tires I would recommend for 7k axles is the Sailun S637 ST235/80-16" load G/110 psi at 4080 capacity.
This would require 110 psi rated wheels.
Or Goodyears G614 RST made in the USA comes in a LT235/85-16" load G at 3750 lbs at 110 psi.
Both tires are all steel ply commercial grade carcass made for regional service trailers. Both work great on rv trailers.
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The newer ST premium tires, with nylon wrap and higher speed rating are similar priced. Endurance, Provider, and Carlisle HD are some choices. Carlisle likely the lower price. I've had good luck with previous Provider STs (8 yrs old) and replaced with same last Summer.
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jjj wrote:Getting ready for replacement tires for the fiver. Michelin
tires sidewalls prematurely failed according to Americas tires. Due
to health issues could not get 3 back to them for replacements. They
replaced one under their warranty. Now looking for new ones. I
have been looking at GY Endurance but also see Americas tires
Hartland. They are steel interior and read the are made to their
standards even though they are China tires which I do not
care for. I was wondering if anyone has tried their Hartland tire
and if so what success you have had. Working on a budget and 400.00
less then GY Endurance but still don't want to get stuck with junk
if I don't have too.
Our first rig had 16" wheels, and we tried the greenball towmasters(ST) from costco. Always carried a tire gauge and ensured, psi matched the sidewall pressure. If I remember correctly, the warranty was 2 or 3 years, plus costco's return policy, but never used it. Replaced them after 4 years, on two consecutive sets. Michellins are known for seperating sidewalls on our other rigs, they replaced them, but its a hassle. If you can beef them up, try a commercial wheel and tire.
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Cummins12V98
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If don't like tire issues get the ENDURANCE. Simply do an ENDURANCE tire failure search. I challenge you too find one that is not a road hazard failure.
One individual in this post used to say they were not on the market long enough. Well they have been out since early 2017. Now he won't mention them.
Let's look at reality. Your 14k GVWR 5er should have a MINIMUM of 15% pin. That leaves 11,900# on the four tires now split that by 4 that is 3,000#. The ENDURANCE 235/85 16 at 80psi is rated for 3,640#. The next size 255/85 16 is rated for 4,080. Both tires ratings are at 80psi. Another bonus is they are rated at 87mph.
So a little truth in lending with facts goes a long ways.
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Cummins12V98
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What size and what price was it for the ENDURANCE???? Where are you located.
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jjj
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I am in Calif.and got a price from Americas tire of just shy of 1200.00 I have alway bought my tires from they because they have always took care of any issue I had.
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$223 each at a Discount Tire here locally. By the time you add labor, insurance, valve stems, etc that $1200 isn't out of line. It is Cali after all.
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JIMNLIN
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Cummins12V98 wrote:If don't like tire issues get the ENDURANCE. Simply do an ENDURANCE tire failure search. I challenge you too find one that is not a road hazard failure.
One individual in this post used to say they were not on the market long enough. Well they have been out since early 2017. Now he won't mention them.
Let's look at reality. Your 14k GVWR 5er should have a MINIMUM of 15% pin. That leaves 11,900# on the four tires now split that by 4 that is 3,000#. The ENDURANCE 235/85 16 at 80psi is rated for 3,640#. The next size 255/85 16 is rated for 4,080. Both tires ratings are at 80psi. Another bonus is they are rated at 87mph.
So a little truth in lending with facts goes a long ways.
Here is some facts just for you.
Your brag about no issues with Endurance started when they came out in 2017 and as with any new tire it takes a few years to get a accurate idea how there going to work long term.
And like any new tire they've had a few issues showing up on NHTSA complaints website.
Here is one Endurance tire issue for your reading pleasure:
#1... IRV2
***You can think about getting Goodyear Endurance, but you won't be able to get them!
We have them on our fifth wheel, after 3 years we just put on our 2nd set. One brand new tire has a matching inside and outside bubble on sidewall. Sure they'll warranty it, they just can't get another tire, anywhere!!
Not the first time we've had tire problems, another one was replaced because it was wearing oval, out of round!!
Will be going in another direction when these wear out...
Sent from my moto e (XT2052DL) using iRV2 - RV Forum mobile app***
I've got more Endurance complaints from a couple of rv websites however its a moot point as any new tire it takes a few years for them to come out.
I would say and have said... no more complaints than is on the net the Endurance makes a good tire for most rv trailer owners.
The Endurance ST255/85-16 has a wide tread width and requires a 7" min wide wheel for best long term reliability. Not the best idea for 6"-6.5" wide wheels for a tire/wheel load carrying duties.
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Cummins12V98
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Like I said no non road hazard failures, honestly that is really amazing.. Weak list I have to say.
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