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Northern Tool sells US Made springs, check it out.


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I've had good luck with Etrailer. But sometimes I've also found better prices when I shopped around. Just depends.

Just a heads-up: if you go to heavier springs, you may need to get longer U-bolts.


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FYI, a friend of mine got his springs from etrailer last year and they were stamped Made in China.
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So I finally pulled the good spring off... measures out to 25.25 eye to eye. Gonna need new shoulders bolts anyway as those mostly were trashed removing them, I plan on a wet bolt/shackle kit anyway.

The stamping on the spring band was:
RA 93115
7 29 04

I might assume the second number is the date it was stamped

A search does bring back a matching hit:
https://standardaxle.ca/product/spring-25-70-4-leaves-72-26a-sup/

But those are rated at 3K, so, who knows. The number I found on the axle was 5200. The number on the RV is 5080 per axle, so, ha, none of it lines up. Either way I think I'm going with 3K springs.

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3K per spring is 6K per axle which is more then 5.2K per axle which is more than 5.02K max load!!!

You should NEVER run at max load anyway.


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Allworth wrote:

3K per spring is 6K per axle which is more then 5.2K per axle which is more than 5.02K max load!!!

You should NEVER run at max load anyway.


Yeah, I hear you... I think I'm safe going with more spring, but I agree, the numbers don't line up, and I don't plan to overload it, I just don't want the springs to break again.

It turns out, the RV industry can design their GVWR based pin weight supported... so, GVWR of 12K, with a 2K tongue weight supported by the tow rig means they can legally sell a 12k GVWR RV with tandem 5K axles.

In a way it makes sense, but it still doesn't seem smart to me to be running maxed out all the time. They are 3" axles, as are most 6K axles. AL-KO is the brand.

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Stick with the same spring capacity but spend the $$$ for US Made.

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Oh I'd prefer to buy American, but where? Kinda hard to find now

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And no guarantee that even if it's supposed to be made in America, it won't say Made in China when you actually get it. You're doing what I would be doing.

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It turns out, when I search for "93115" springs, they are sometimes 25.25, and sometimes 25.13 (or shown as 25 1/4, I'll assume there is rounding in the first number).

The examples are always 4 leaf springs rated at 3,000 lbs each. They get away with a 4 leaf spring because it has thicker leaves than the 5 leaf springs. I'm not sure if one is really better than the other.

I'm also not 100% sure mine measure out to 25.25, or 25.13, with a tape measure it is easy to be off by a 16th, these maybe fall in the middle somewhere, but they are 19 years old, and maybe at this point we are splitting hairs. The longer length at best adds 1/16 on either end of the spring.

Interestingly enough, you can find a set of 4 on amazon, haha:
4 Leaf Spring Set

They are stupid cheap at $40 a each shipped, so I'm going to assume those are the worst china has to offer.

I'll continue the search to find the best quality, but it is a trick to know what you're even ordering now. It seems dexter/rockwell is still american made, but can't seem to find them to order online.

I need to get this order done today so I can get them in by next weekend.

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